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Old 07-15-16, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by inspclouseau
I'm curious why the hating on the buttons over touchscreen? Setup is a pain, but how often do you need to do anything but press the power and save button after set up?

My 520 is a greasy, nasty mess after every ride with caked on sweat, no idea how touchscreen would work.

I wouldn't mind having maps, though the reality is I don't tour nor do I ride much when out of town.
If you don't touch any buttons, why is your 520 a mess after a ride?
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
If you don't touch any buttons, why is your 520 a mess after a ride?
I'm Italian you'd be amazed at how far the grease emanates in direction and distance from my body.

I also live in Florida - I sweat a lot. A real lot. It's like a faucet sometimes dripping off my face and nose everywhere.

Hoping tonight I get out of work a little early and can get the bike cleaned for the weekend.
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Originally Posted by inspclouseau
I'm Italian you'd be amazed at how far the grease emanates in direction and distance from my body.

I also live in Florida - I sweat a lot. A real lot. It's like a faucet sometimes dripping off my face and nose everywhere.

Hoping tonight I get out of work a little early and can get the bike cleaned for the weekend.
Haha, I was just giving you ****.

Also, I will add to the conversation that I've never had issues with the touch screen on the 810, but in Phoenix, I don't see a lot of wet or cold riding.
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I have the opposite problem. I don't sweat enough. Bike and GPS are dry as a bone after a ride.

Once I get the 820 (or 1000) for the road bike, I will relegate the 510 to the mtn bike. I wish they made tempered glass screen covers like they do for phones, since they soft ones are rarely very clear. It will finally be time to sell the trusty 705. Is there any mapping advantage the 820 has over the 1000?
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Originally Posted by inspclouseau
I'm curious why the hating on the buttons over touchscreen? Setup is a pain, but how often do you need to do anything but press the power and save button after set up?
Every time you use the map.
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Originally Posted by inspclouseau
I'm curious why the hating on the buttons over touchscreen? Setup is a pain, but how often do you need to do anything but press the power and save button after set up?

My 520 is a greasy, nasty mess after every ride with caked on sweat, no idea how touchscreen would work.

I wouldn't mind having maps, though the reality is I don't tour nor do I ride much when out of town.
One example: changing the field on a screen. With the 510, you can be on any page, hold your finger down on the field you want to change and it brings up the options for that field. You then select what you want with the ease of the touch screen and you're set. Without the touch screen, you have to navigate to the home page, go into the settings, navigate to the profile (race vs. train), navigate to the page you want to edit, navigate to the field you want to edit, etc. On the 510, I can do it mid-ride with the touchscreen. I've done it on occasion.

And yeah, if I'm navigating with maps, I'm going to highly prefer touchscreen over buttons.
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Although I'm having a few small problems with my 520 they're not really at the deal breaker level. I would like wifi but that's about all the 820 seems to offer that I would find useful for my style of riding. I am not a power user by any means.
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on the 510, i can do it mid-ride with the touchscreen in my dreams.
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Right.... Done it many times before while moving. No issue. The only time it didn't work out so well was swiping back and forth from the map page when I was on a gravel road that really required having both hands on the bars.

I don't see why so many people seem to have issues with the touchscreen. Mine has been trouble free regardless of rain, gloves, etc.

EDIT: Ah, I see your earlier post now. So because you don't enjoy the 510, it's just IMPOSSIBLE to conceive that another human could use it without difficulty?

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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I don't see why so many people seem to have issues with the touchscreen. Mine has been trouble free regardless of rain, gloves, etc.
Yours is magic.

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So because you don't enjoy the 510, it's just IMPOSSIBLE to conceive that another human could use it without difficulty?
Let's trade. I want your magic 510.
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Originally Posted by velociraptor
Yours is magic.



Let's trade. I want your magic 510.
I'll give you a deal after I pick up the 820.

I won't say I haven't had any issues with the 510. Typical spotty Garmin firmware updates can be hit or miss and lose settings and profiles. But the touchscreen hasn't been an issue.
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Performance bike has them in stock now.
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I bought mine this morning but didn't splurge on 2 day shipping, so I should have it by the weekend, I'd guess.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
I bought mine this morning but didn't splurge on 2 day shipping, so I should have it by the weekend, I'd guess.


I'm assuming you didn't get the $50 off promo they're offering right now? Saw the promo but am betting Garmin is excluded from it.
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I bought mine this morning but didn't splurge on 2 day shipping, so I should have it by the weekend, I'd guess.
I did as well. I also signed up for Team Performance as the points earned more than cover the yearly fee. And it should upgrade to free 2 day shipping. We'll see.
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I bought it from a seller on Amazon.

I didn't bother with Performance. I did just try and there was no $50 rebate loaded in the cart, and adding tax made it more expensive than Amazon.

Honestly, I couldn't get any details from LBSs this weekend about having stock this week so I tried the Garmin site this morning and it still wasn't available for sale, so I tried amazon and a seller had 5 list for regular price, free shipping, and no tax.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Whatever you do, don't buy it till it's been out for a year and at least two software updates have been issued. Garmin makes good gear... eventually.
It's been well over three years and Garmin hasn't come close to fixing the Garmin Edge 810 turn by turn mapping failures. Personally, I think that Garmin knows what the problem is but they are unwilling to bear the cost to fix it. Their plan seems to be one where they continue to pretend to be working on the problem until everyone moves on and it's forgotten.
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I'm so used to dealing with garmin issues, I hardly even get frustrated anymore.
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I've been using the Edge 520 since it came out, buttons never bothered me and I was actually glad I didn't have to worry about a touchscreen. The 820 is #1 on my list right now because I really want better turn-by-turn and actual mapping. My lovely wife will love my 520 hand me down...
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It's been well over three years and Garmin hasn't come close to fixing the Garmin Edge 810 turn by turn mapping failures. Personally, I think that Garmin knows what the problem is but they are unwilling to bear the cost to fix it. Their plan seems to be one where they continue to pretend to be working on the problem until everyone moves on and it's forgotten.
I guess that's why I'm still using my 800! Although... there's a weird turn by turn bug in the 800 that crops up every now and then too. Sometimes the "distance to next" doesn't realize you went by the turn, even if you make it, and it starts going up. Not useful. :/
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Looks like a great unit Hutu will stick to my 510 for now. It's worked flawless since day one and in fresh out of the box condition. I can't say I need those new features any way. It was the latest and greatest for such a small window I can't keep up with the pace these things go out of style anyway. I am interested in how the battery saver feature works out.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
I bought mine this morning but didn't splurge on 2 day shipping, so I should have it by the weekend, I'd guess.
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I did as well. I also signed up for Team Performance as the points earned more than cover the yearly fee. And it should upgrade to free 2 day shipping. We'll see.
Originally Posted by Larry77
The 820 is #1 on my list right now because I really want better turn-by-turn and actual mapping. My lovely wife will love my 520 hand me down...
Just want to say thanx for being the beta testers.
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Originally Posted by velociraptor
Just want to say thanx for being the beta testers.
Haha, the cool thing about Garmin, the products usually work correctly for about the first week after release, then everything ****s up for about a week, then it goes back to normal until the next major firmware update, then all hell breaks loose.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
Haha, the cool thing about Garmin, the products usually work correctly for about the first week after release, then everything ****s up for about a week, then it goes back to normal until the next major firmware update, then all hell breaks loose.
I had the 520 since last Aug and the Livetrack feature was working fine until last month when it seemed to have quit for everyone with an iPhone.
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