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Old 09-27-16, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
I dunno, I see lots of tubby "runners" out there wheezing around at 15 min / mile.
What is happening is that people are starting to realize they have to change their current lifestyle and get off the couch. That is a good thing. You have to start somewhere, so that is why you see the "tubby people out there wheezing" in which ever activity they choose. You will see them wheezing away running, on the bike, swimming, in classes at the gym, etc. They've decided to make a change and good for them. I was having this very type of conversation with my Brother In Law over the weekend. He is a heavy guy. That weight caused him to have back problems and then some back surgeries. Now after the surgeries, he is making a change. He has lost 25lbs doing Tae Kwon Do. His next goal is to run a 5K. Good for him, he is getting off the couch.

I am lucky that I live in a city that has a powerful Non Profit Organization that promotes a healthy lifestyle and gives people the opportunity to live it. Take a look at what they do around the greater Richmond area.

https://www.sportsbackers.org/

On the weekends during the training season for the Richmond Full/Half Marathons/10K, their training teams will send out between 500-1000 runners each weekend, maybe more on the streets of Richmond. There are other training teams in the area as well. That's a lot of people getting off the couch.

They had a training team set up for The Tour Of Richmond Bike Tour this year until the title sponsor folded and the ride had to be cancelled. So they turned their support to the local bike club(RABA) and helped them elevate their yearly event.

https://www.heartofvacentury.org/

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Yes because guys without big guts get laid more
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But do runners wave??
No.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
No.
When I am running on the MUP, I generally wave to other runners. I might be doing it wrong. I don't wave to walkers. I only wave to cyclists I know (when running).
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I was running (yes, on a MUP) and got passed like I was standing still. I shouted "holy crap you're fast!" to the figure disappearing over the horizon, and heard "training for a marathon" echo back to me. It was my first conversation as a runner!
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
I dunno, I see lots of tubby "runners" out there wheezing around at 15 min / mile.
That's almost impossible to RUN at pace... it's walking
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I was running (yes, on a MUP) and got passed like I was standing still. I shouted "holy crap you're fast!" to the figure disappearing over the horizon, and heard "training for a marathon" echo back to me. It was my first conversation as a runner!
One time a few years ago I was running on the MUP and a runner pulled along side of me and said "come with me, I pace you for a bit", and we ran together for about 2 miles before he left me. That was the fastest 2 miles I ever ran up to that point. He was fast, real fast, I think he was doing sub-6 mm training run. It was a great experience and I was grateful that he did that.

I repay that by sometimes if I am seeing someone is struggling a little on the bike, I would pull next to them and tell them to sit on me for 5-10 minutes while I tow them. It's a nice way to make friends.
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Nothing wrong with walking. It's a good starting point for most, just like riding slowly is.
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Originally Posted by bargeon
Ouch!
Be careful about pace and running. I at times have trouble going much faster than a 12 min first mile. I then get warmed up and can get 9-10 minute pace. I can keep this up for 10-15 miles no problem. Sure it is slow but at about 4.5 mph we a technically running. I find a 15 mph ride on flat terrain nothing at all hardly gets my heartrate above 100. For my wife that is smoking fast. Effort and training determine work output.
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As has been said, I think it has a lot to do with food. I know a lot of cyclists who "ride to eat", whereas runners I have known all tend to "eat to run". The difference in philosophy makes a big impact on calories in/out. I would guess anyone who rides/run to eat will be bigger, and the other way would be on the skinnier side.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
Plus fat people are more jolly, and running is for miserable people.
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2
I'm gonna stick with muscle fat
i'm going with pleasingly plump.
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Originally Posted by deacon mark
Be careful about pace and running. I at times have trouble going much faster than a 12 min first mile. I then get warmed up and can get 9-10 minute pace. I can keep this up for 10-15 miles no problem. Sure it is slow but at about 4.5 mph we a technically running. I find a 15 mph ride on flat terrain nothing at all hardly gets my heartrate above 100. For my wife that is smoking fast. Effort and training determine work output.
Me too, actually. The "ouch" was my toes getting stepped on. I should know to avoid one word posts.
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Originally Posted by datlas
When I am running on the MUP, I generally wave to other runners. I might be doing it wrong. I don't wave to walkers. I only wave to cyclists I know (when running).
A nod is also acceptable with runners. Or sometimes even a 'g morning'.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
A nod is also acceptable with runners. Or sometimes even a 'g morning'.
I can try that too. It seems most runners have earbuds going so I figure they don't hear me. Personally, I am usually running to 90's grunge and/or indie-pop music.
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You guys are all too fat for this sport. Personally, I am rocking the Chris Froome body type...sadly, I don't have the FTP to match.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
Right. How often do you hear about runners running to a bakery, eating a bunch of brownies, and then running home? You'll see that ride burned into the Strava heatmap in this neck of the woods.

Not to mention the "bikes and pints" rides, again, not something I associate with runners typically.
Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_House_Harriers.
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Originally Posted by memebag
I forgot about the Hash. It's really more about drinking than running.
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Originally Posted by caloso
I forgot about the Hash. It's really more about drinking than running.
And the same is true for some cycling.
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Originally Posted by memebag
I'm well aware of it. In fact as a kid I did it with my parents, in Malaysia no less, where HHH was started. Back then it was all about fun and games and drinking. Not really running/jogging as we think of it today. Fitness certainly wasn't a consideration.

On on!
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Originally Posted by garciawork
As has been said, I think it has a lot to do with food. I know a lot of cyclists who "ride to eat", whereas runners I have known all tend to "eat to run". The difference in philosophy makes a big impact on calories in/out. I would guess anyone who rides/run to eat will be bigger, and the other way would be on the skinnier side.
I might fit into the "ride to eat", except I love riding in general, almost as much as eating. I'm actually worried about it when I go back to the states. I'll probably gain a bunch of weight just from American food. Wifey will need to keep my diet in check.
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There are all types of runners and all types of cyclists. "Cyclist" has been used very loosely in the cycling community.


An overweight person running rarely or slow, but with a super expensive pair of running shoes would unlikely brand oneself as a "serious runner", which is not the case for self-proclaimed "serious-cyclists".


A pair of running shoes doesn't automatically make one a runner. Neither should a super-expensive bike.


If you compare runners to cyclists that have dedicated same amount of time or burned similar of amount of calorie in their sports/training, the results should be a lot similar.
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After your runner's Knees give out and you take up cycling you live a long life, which may include gaining a Pound or 2.
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Originally Posted by hsuehhwa
There are all types of runners and all types of cyclists. "Cyclist" has been used very loosely in the cycling community.


An overweight person running rarely or slow, but with a super expensive pair of running shoes would unlikely brand oneself as a "serious runner", which is not the case for self-proclaimed "serious-cyclists".


A pair of running shoes doesn't automatically make one a runner. Neither should a super-expensive bike.


If you compare runners to cyclists that have dedicated same amount of time or burned similar of amount of calorie in their sports/training, the results should be a lot similar.
Not even close. Next time, try to run for a hour, and then ride for a hour, and let me know if the results are similar.
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Originally Posted by dalava
Not even close. Next time, try to run for a hour, and then ride for a hour, and let me know if the results are similar.
All about intensity. I can do either of those activities really easy or really hard.
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