U.S. Canyon love?
04-11-17, 06:52 PM
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What's Canyon when you have GIANT!
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04-12-17, 08:40 AM
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Canyon is a major threat to LBS. Please get that out of the way before calling them "Coors" of the bike world. Coors? Really?
04-12-17, 08:42 AM
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04-12-17, 12:07 PM
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It was covered in a CyclingTips podcast about supply chain a few months ago. They threw around some statistics that I now can't remember.
Googling, here's an article discussing this issue:
Opinion: Let me be direct
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Opinion: Let me be direct
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If the price is right I'll be pretty excited. Who doesn't want more options? I love the direct to consumer model. If Giant would ship directly to my house I might have bought a TCR earlier this year.
04-12-17, 01:57 PM
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04-12-17, 02:00 PM
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Trek also allows to buy direct from their website. What is so attractive about Canyon's 'model'? Is there anything apart from maybe a lower price?
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You're missing the analogy. Nothing wrong with Coors, but Americans east of the Mississippi of a certain age thought it was special because they didn't have access to it, only to find out it wasn't particularly special.
Certain people in American seem to be overly enamored with Canyon for the same effect which will likely wane once they are readily available.
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You're missing the analogy. Nothing wrong with Coors, but Americans east of the Mississippi of a certain age thought it was special because they didn't have access to it, only to find out it wasn't particularly special.
Certain people in American seem to be overly enamored with Canyon for the same effect which will likely wane once they are readily available.
Certain people in American seem to be overly enamored with Canyon for the same effect which will likely wane once they are readily available.
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What people cannot get is usually what they want, specifically because they cannot have it.
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I think it is more a "the grass is always greener". Strip off the paint and remove the marketing...and would people still be is as hot for it over any other outsourced frameset? Probably not.
What people cannot get is usually what they want, specifically because they cannot have it.
What people cannot get is usually what they want, specifically because they cannot have it.
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Frankly I do not see the appeal, the frames are made in Asia like most manufactures with the same components available on other brands hung on their frames. That said I am one who strongly believes in supporting the local LBS, so I am not anticipating or interested in Canyon coming to the US market.
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Trek still has their traditional overhead, distribution margins, etc.
04-12-17, 02:45 PM
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Frankly I do not see the appeal, the frames are made in Asia like most manufactures with the same components available on other brands hung on their frames. That said I am one who strongly believes in supporting the local LBS, so I am not anticipating or interested in Canyon coming to the US market.
People still see appeal in high end Specialized, Cannondale, etc despite manufacturing origins.
For me Canyons are pretty in shape, tastefully restrained in paint, come in good configuration (aside from the dependency on Mavic) and are competitively priced
04-12-17, 02:56 PM
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Frankly I do not see the appeal, the frames are made in Asia like most manufactures with the same components available on other brands hung on their frames. That said I am one who strongly believes in supporting the local LBS, so I am not anticipating or interested in Canyon coming to the US market.
04-12-17, 03:25 PM
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04-12-17, 04:37 PM
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and afaik, selling actual bikes is really not a healthy business for shops anymore. lots of capital sunk into models that take up lots of floor space and 'date' after a season. i think it only serves to get people in the door, like 1st time customers. service is really the value proposition for them. let the internet take care of retailing.
04-12-17, 05:01 PM
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I find Canyon designs quite pleasing to the eye. I really like the straight lines and angles, especially the Aeroad. Straight lines aren't completely unique of course, Colnago and Cipollini for instance has used them in some particularly beautiful designs. But I feel you need to have connections in high places to acquire either of those.
I much prefer the direct to consumer model.
I much prefer the direct to consumer model.
04-12-17, 05:14 PM
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For me, LBSs are middlemen. I am glad they exist for those who need the service, but I'd prefer to buy direct from the manufacturer and save the difference.
I hope that Canyon finally gets on with it, though I remain skeptical...
I hope that Canyon finally gets on with it, though I remain skeptical...
04-13-17, 07:18 AM
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Meh, Canyon bikes are kinda like Coors Beer.
When I was growing up, you couldn't get Coors east of the Mississippi. So it had this aura, and was highly desired. When it became distributed nationwide, we quickly learned it was nothing special.
Canyon benefits in the U.S. from the same forbidden fruit phenomena.
I think if you asked most European cyclists they'd view Canyon as not particularly special, as will U.S. cyclists after the Coors effect wears off.
When I was growing up, you couldn't get Coors east of the Mississippi. So it had this aura, and was highly desired. When it became distributed nationwide, we quickly learned it was nothing special.
Canyon benefits in the U.S. from the same forbidden fruit phenomena.
I think if you asked most European cyclists they'd view Canyon as not particularly special, as will U.S. cyclists after the Coors effect wears off.
Pretty much covers it.
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I think it is more a "the grass is always greener". Strip off the paint and remove the marketing...and would people still be is as hot for it over any other outsourced frameset? Probably not.
What people cannot get is usually what they want, specifically because they cannot have it.
What people cannot get is usually what they want, specifically because they cannot have it.
Bingo.
In a nutshell, that's it.
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Probably true, but I have to wonder how anxious the LBS's will be to service a bike bought online. I am sure some will to gain the service business, but I will be willing to bet the customer will be put at the end of the line and maybe not offer the same level of service they do to customers who have bought from them.