Flip the stem, eh?
05-21-06, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by linus
WTH is this? How could someone else approve YOUR saddle to bar height?
linus, for being a dumb member, you're right on target here...
05-21-06, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Well, off for a ride to the Bay. After a somewhat irritating morning on BF, I think I'm going to throw on my Camelbak, make sure my stem is flipped up, and wear my Discovery Champs Elysses jersey for a nice 55-miler. 
You passed me.
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05-21-06, 04:09 PM
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So, instead of this:
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
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Originally Posted by iamtim
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Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
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05-21-06, 04:44 PM
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linus, for being a dumb member, you're right on target here...
05-21-06, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iamtim
So, instead of this:
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
I was just making a suggestion, hope you didn't feel offended by my previous posts. If you still can't get over the look of it, just ride as you are right now.
05-21-06, 05:02 PM
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The bike industry created this dilemma. There was a time when you could buy a lot of different types of road bikes based on your riding style. Most bikes today are racers. I’d fathom to guess that most of us are not racing bikes.
Flipping your stem to get aero and becoming a weight weenie is cool and all but taking a realistic look at yourself and your riding style is most important. For me, I like to ride medium to long distances comfortably so my saddle is just a bit higher than my handlebars.
Flipping your stem to get aero and becoming a weight weenie is cool and all but taking a realistic look at yourself and your riding style is most important. For me, I like to ride medium to long distances comfortably so my saddle is just a bit higher than my handlebars.
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Originally Posted by iamtim
So, instead of this:
It should look like this:
It should look like this:
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It's absolutely rediculous to sacrafice comfort for aero. And it's even dumber to sacrafice lung capacity and efficiency.
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Originally Posted by iamtim
So, instead of this:
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
It should look like this:
Yes? And that will supposedly gain me stiffness and weight savings?
05-21-06, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOpie
It's absolutely rediculous to sacrafice comfort for aero. And it's even dumber to sacrafice lung capacity and efficiency.
05-21-06, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cydewaze
Hey I think I saw you today!
You passed me.
You passed me.
Still had the stem flipped up, though...
What a gorgeous day out there. Rode from Bowie to Galesville out on the bay. It was supposed to be a 55-mile loop, but a little wrong turn action made it my first metric century of the season...
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Originally Posted by bluecd
just because you aren't comfortable and can't breath when you're bent over, doesn't mean the rest of us suffer from the same affliction.
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Originally Posted by bluecd
just because you aren't comfortable and can't breath when you're bent over, doesn't mean the rest of us suffer from the same affliction.
05-21-06, 11:36 PM
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Heh...I flipped the bike and left the stem alone. I'm screwed.
05-21-06, 11:43 PM
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i don't think there is anything wrong with flipping up ur stem. as long as ur comfy and u can breathe well and ride on for days.. then it's all good. it's not like ur gonna be a pro or anything.. right?
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i don't think there is anything wrong with flipping up ur stem. as long as ur comfy and u can breathe well and ride on for days.. then it's all good. it's not like ur gonna be a pro or anything.. right?
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Flipping the stem seems awfully drastic for most. Stems come in a bunch of angles and more gradual change seems more appropriate. Specialized actually makes a stem that goes from +16 deg to -16deg by changing out shims that fit over the steering tube. You can lower the angle just a couple degrees at a time untill you find what works best for you.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
What a gorgeous day out there. Rode from Bowie to Galesville out on the bay. It was supposed to be a 55-mile loop, but a little wrong turn action made it my first metric century of the season...
My wife has improved so much in a short time. Even with the wind, her average speed yesterday was almost 2mph faster than she was doing this same ride last spring.
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05-22-06, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LordOpie
it's about the bad advice consistently given to NEWBIES
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Originally Posted by sestivers
We can all make this easier. Before you take pictures of your bike, put the stem in the flipped-down position (with all the spacers removed, too). Then once your pictures are posted, put the stem in the position that is right for you. Voila - no more "flip it" comments.
For extra points: Chain set in highest gear, crankarm at 2 o'clock, drive-side picture, and your dirty laundry picked up from the floor.
For extra points: Chain set in highest gear, crankarm at 2 o'clock, drive-side picture, and your dirty laundry picked up from the floor.
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iamtim, the bike looks great flipped, and if you feel comfortable on it great.
I like the look of it Post flipped, don't let the spacer cops and anti flippers get to you. Personally I like the look of spacers and a more horizontal stem as it looks more like the classic Road Bike Quill stems. It certainly looks better than having no spacers and having a stem point towards the sky.
My Reynolds Ouzo (with Carbon steerer) has a maximum recommended spacer stack of 1.5 inches, which is plenty of spacers. BTW I cut mine right at stem height with no spacers just because that's what I was after.
As Cydwaze asked, I would rather ride a Hybrid comfort bike than a Road Racing bike made to look all pedestrian, but thats just me.
I like the look of it Post flipped, don't let the spacer cops and anti flippers get to you. Personally I like the look of spacers and a more horizontal stem as it looks more like the classic Road Bike Quill stems. It certainly looks better than having no spacers and having a stem point towards the sky.
My Reynolds Ouzo (with Carbon steerer) has a maximum recommended spacer stack of 1.5 inches, which is plenty of spacers. BTW I cut mine right at stem height with no spacers just because that's what I was after.
As Cydwaze asked, I would rather ride a Hybrid comfort bike than a Road Racing bike made to look all pedestrian, but thats just me.
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