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Why does everyone slam Bicycling magazine?

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Old 12-12-06, 09:38 AM
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Rodale should publish two different mags...one for the uninitiated and one for advanced cyclists with more indepth offerings...
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
for you triatheletes I reccommend "Triathelete" magazine plenty of articles and race results. It seems to me that Bicycling is more for people who spend more time shopping than cycling. This isn't bad, its just geared more towards a VERY non-competetive audience. Hence all the weight loss B.S. Triathelete on the other hand is all about sport.

+1 on "Triathelete" magazine.
Interesting articles and informative to both the cyclist and runner.
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Old 12-12-06, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gcthree
As one who happens to be in the magazine biz, let me correct you: magazines make all their money via advertising. ...

So, the answer is digital publishing. Take a look at the magazine we are publishing on the web: www.windingroad.com (I know, I know, it's a car mag, but just take a look- it won't hurt!)
I took a look. It's no different than any other car magazine, and still relies on advertising dollars. It just doesn't cost anything to the reader, but it's a pain hauling my monitor to the toilet.

Car mags have all the same conclusions: cars are never big enough, they never have enough power, issues of reliability in year 3+ are never talked about, $40,000 for a car is "affordable", and alternative vehicles and fuel economy are never discussed.
 
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Car mags have all the same conclusions: cars are never big enough, they never have enough power, issues of reliability in year 3+ are never talked about, $40,000 for a car is "affordable", and alternative vehicles and fuel economy are never discussed.
Car magazines have direct comparison reviews so you can see how the different features compare on similar cars. Bicycling magazine never does that.
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Old 12-12-06, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
i just got a 2 year subscription for $2. we'll see what it's like. if it sucks well, there's so many more ways that i could have wasted that $2.

Where'd you get it for that price? My last subscription came from budgetmags.com which I guess is no longer around.

Good or bad, I look forward to getting it and generally read it cover to cover. For a recreational, commuter, fitness rider there really isn't anything else out there that I've found.
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Old 12-12-06, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by daredevil
Good or bad, I look forward to getting it and generally read it cover to cover. For a recreational, commuter, fitness rider there really isn't anything else out there that I've found.
CyclingPlus is targeted at the same type of cyclist as Bicycling Magazine. CyclingPlus is somewhat more expensive, but the quality level and number of articles per issue are much higher.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
CyclingPlus is targeted at the same type of cyclist as Bicycling Magazine. CyclingPlus is somewhat more expensive, but the quality level and number of articles per issue are much higher.
Nearly $100 for a year is too rich for my blood.
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Originally Posted by daredevil
Nearly $100 for a year is too rich for my blood.
You can get CyclingPlus for around $70/year (delivered to USA addresses) if you subscribe directly from their web site: https://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/ (subscriptions link is on the right side of the page). That's only about $10 more than what UK people pay. I guess those Euro magazines have a different profit model from the USA magazines.

fyi - "Team Performance" members now get Bicycling magazine for free.
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Old 12-12-06, 01:09 PM
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Car magazines have direct comparison reviews so you can see how the different features compare on similar cars. Bicycling magazine never does that.
Yes, but all cars are great and well-built in magazine land. They then just count cup holders. It's pretty infantile.

Cycling Plus does compare 4-5 different bikes in the same price range against each other. At the top end, they love Parlees.
 
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Yes, but all cars are great and well-built in magazine land. They then just count cup holders. It's pretty infantile.

Cycling Plus does compare 4-5 different bikes in the same price range against each other. At the top end, they love Parlees.
OK, some of the car magazines are that bad. But not all. Car & Driver used to be really great. Right now it's kind of in a creative funk but they still produce pretty good comparison articles. OK, so usually a BMW will win their comparison tests if there is one that fits the market point they're comparing, and if not, the Honda or Toyota will win. But thats probably a pretty objective decision. BMW, Honda and Toyota make great cars.
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Originally Posted by Rotten Bastard
+1 on Cycling Plus. They give lots of useful, detailed tips that roadies need, like a recent article about how to deal with a punctured tube if you've forgotten your patch kit. One solution was tying your tube into a knot (a solution so simple I honestly never woulda thunk of it).

And yeah, their reviews are unbiased. They're not afraid to criticize.

One problem I have with Bicycling Magazine is they only review bikes from the big makers that advertise with them. Doesn't give a wide range of stuff.
I agree on Cycling plus being the best bicycling magazine.

The "tie your tube in a knot trick" does not work with 700x23 tires. The knot is too big to even seat the tire on the wheel properly. I can see it working on bigger tires but I have not tried any other sizes.
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Old 12-12-06, 06:42 PM
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Anyone read "Rouleur"? Put out by Rapha.
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Old 12-12-06, 09:03 PM
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I'm late to this thread, but I'll agree that CYCLING PLUS is a very good magazine. I really like the variety of articles in every issue.

As a former magazine editor, I like to think about what an American version of Cycling Plus would be like. Four or five articles on the best rides in the U.S. & Canada in the front, comparision bike tests (of bikes that we can actually buy here) and coverage of top races in the middle, and equipment comparision reviews in the back of the book.

When I think about it, I don't see how that formula couldn't make it in the U.S., too. In the meantime I'll continue to buy the British version.
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Old 12-12-06, 10:15 PM
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I completely forgot. Bicycling did an excellent and heroic article on Dr. Ferrari. I especially like the anecdote on the last page, about him helping his daughter.
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Velo News is a great magazine - especially when the Euro tour kicks off, the one day classics, and the grand tours. The photography is just awe inspiring - it's everything a mag about cycling should be.

Bicycling is just so repetitive, with no diverse content from issue to issue. It's now more about losing weight, trim up those gluts, and common sense nutrition, plus some reviews of kits and bicycles that are not really reviews but just re-written manufacturer talking points.

I do like the ad in the back for the sex toys, though ! And there was an issue on sex and cycling that was delicious. But other than that it's a waste of money.
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Old 12-15-06, 03:43 PM
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And don't forget the quarterly Rivendell magazine as a good read !
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Old 12-15-06, 09:43 PM
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I liked it when I was 7.
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Old 12-15-06, 11:01 PM
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^^ Funny thing is the blurbs on the cover are pretty much exactly the same.
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