Why no aero bars on road bikes?
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Originally Posted by Hambone
thanks
Your depth of knowledge amazes me.
Your depth of knowledge amazes me.
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Originally Posted by ratebeer
After again seeing (how can you tire of it?) Greg Lemond CRUSH Laurent Fignon in 1989 TdF time trial, I wonder why a hybrid aero bar/traditional set up are still not standard on road racing bikes.
Road racers are not always in packs -- critical breakaways or chases could easily be decided by the existence or not of aerobars. Using aerobars in a pack when it's safe to do so would also have significant benefits even if there are many who doubt it (and global warming.)
Road racers are not always in packs -- critical breakaways or chases could easily be decided by the existence or not of aerobars. Using aerobars in a pack when it's safe to do so would also have significant benefits even if there are many who doubt it (and global warming.)
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
because people have no imagination and enjoy worrying needlessly.
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
because people have no imagination and enjoy worrying needlessly.
Conservatism, of all types, is like a terrorizing Daschund
smart enough to jump into the drive train of Progress.
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Originally Posted by Sprocket Man
How is the rear derailleur shift lever mounted on that handlebar?
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
i mounted it to a paul components thumbie. the thumbie's in this sweetspot where comfort is unaffected by placement, the shifter doesn't interfere with the brake lever/braking and the angle is just right for effortless shifting.
(Dang that bike just looks fast...)
I thought the GT was the only "tripple triangle."
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In racing there are rules, they follow them when they have to.
If they can get an advantage somehow then most will ie: Zeb's photo above.
I have aero bars. I use them on my rides. I get 2-3 mph on a flat just tucking into them. Call me names, I don't care, I don't live my life to impress others. I give a nod to all other riders, full team kit or jeans. Some people take themselves too seriously. Cycling fashionistas can kiss my @$$.
If they can get an advantage somehow then most will ie: Zeb's photo above.
I have aero bars. I use them on my rides. I get 2-3 mph on a flat just tucking into them. Call me names, I don't care, I don't live my life to impress others. I give a nod to all other riders, full team kit or jeans. Some people take themselves too seriously. Cycling fashionistas can kiss my @$$.
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Originally Posted by thenomad
I get 2-3 mph on a flat just tucking into them. Call me names, I don't care, I don't live my life to impress others. I give a nod to all other riders, full team kit or jeans. Some people take themselves too seriously. Cycling fashionistas can kiss my @$$.
taking oneself too seriously, and riding with complete disreguard for your safety and the safety of everyone around you are 2 completely different things, and you're the later...
a friend was on a training ride, with 2 of his friends, all of which were on tri bikes. before he knew it, he was bloody mess on a motorists windshield, because he couldn't get to his brakes fast enough. luckily, he's doing well now, and he's started training again in baby steps. some people, like yourself, just need something bad to happen to them before they realize what everyone else is talking about. hopefully, it won't involve anyone else though...
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Originally Posted by FIVE ONE SIX
a friend was on a training ride, with 2 of his friends, all of which were on tri bikes. before he knew it, he was bloody mess on a motorists windshield, because he couldn't get to his brakes fast enough.
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Originally Posted by FIVE ONE SIX
a friend was on a training ride with two of his friends, all of whom were on road bikes. before he knew it, he was bloody mess on a motorists windshield
A whiney case built around unlikely hypothetical outcomes meant to hyperbolize risk is not a compelling one.
Do you think the thousands of road bike riders who go down ever year in races blame the bike and refuse to saddle up again?
Face it, my feline friend. You got nothing going on here in terms of a coherent and compelling argument.
By the way the irrational, fearful element is thinking here, you'd think triathlons and team time trials were just huge messes of falling bodies and people being gored (hahahaha). It's simply not the case. The folks saying that these are the rules, this is the way we play the game, are actually make a lot more sense than those who are attempting to rationalize something that can't be reasonably defended.
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
because people have no imagination and enjoy worrying needlessly.
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i'm usually in front, so it's not an issue.
edit: plus... being in any sort of pileup hurts regardless of what you're being hit in the back with--which would... in all likelihood, sooner be the elbow or pedal of someone turning away from the pile than a direct bar-gore.
edit: plus... being in any sort of pileup hurts regardless of what you're being hit in the back with--which would... in all likelihood, sooner be the elbow or pedal of someone turning away from the pile than a direct bar-gore.
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
i'm usually in front, so it's not an issue.
edit: plus... being in any sort of pileup hurts regardless of what you're being hit in the back with--which would... in all likelihood, sooner be the elbow or pedal of someone turning away from the pile than a direct bar-gore.
edit: plus... being in any sort of pileup hurts regardless of what you're being hit in the back with--which would... in all likelihood, sooner be the elbow or pedal of someone turning away from the pile than a direct bar-gore.
They should outlaw them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waah! Waah!
Just plain dangerous I tell ya!
I once had a friend go out riding with a couple of his friends with chainrings. Next thing he knew he was in the hospital bleeding.
Also there are plenty of cases where, in team time trials, guys with aerobars gored each other in a pileup like it was some gay orgy video.
Plenty.
How about those toe clip pedals! I don't know how many times I've seen riders go down wearing those things. Downright DANGEROUS!!!! If those were legal, there would be riders falling down on train tracks and struggling to get loose from their bikes as a locomotive turned their bodies into Jeffrey Dahmer's fridge!!! I refuse to ride with toe clip guys!!
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Originally Posted by visitordesign
because people have no imagination and enjoy worrying needlessly.
I'd hate to ride next to him waiting for the inevitable pileup where I end up a bloody mess. Same for any "johnny tribar" or other cleverly named elitist nonsense groupthink I can muster up.
How careless of me to even consider riding on aerobars. I deserve what's coming to me. While we are at it, we should eliminate all bikes with those ball-crushing top tubes, or the uncovered spinning spoked wheels of death waiting to suck hapless feet, arms and heads into them. We should also bring back the brake lever extensions for the top bar... yeah, that'd keep us all safer.
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exactly. and anything resembling dahmer's fridge can't be all bad. choice meat's hard to come by and cyclists serve up nice and lean.
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Originally Posted by ratebeer
I BET GETTING POKED IN THE EYE OR THE THROAT OR THE ELBOW WITH EGG BEATER PEDALS OR A CHAINRING IN A PILE UP IS A LOT OF FUN!
They should outlaw them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waah! Waah!
Just plain dangerous I tell ya!
I once had a friend go out riding with a couple of his friends with chainrings. Next thing he knew he was in the hospital bleeding.
Also there are plenty of cases where, in team time trials, guys with aerobars gored each other in a pileup like it was some gay orgy video.
Plenty.
How about those toe clip pedals! I don't know how many times I've seen riders go down wearing those things. Downright DANGEROUS!!!! If those were legal, there would be riders falling down on train tracks and struggling to get loose from their bikes as a locomotive turned their bodies into Jeffrey Dahmer's fridge!!! I refuse to ride with toe clip guys!!
They should outlaw them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waah! Waah!
Just plain dangerous I tell ya!
I once had a friend go out riding with a couple of his friends with chainrings. Next thing he knew he was in the hospital bleeding.
Also there are plenty of cases where, in team time trials, guys with aerobars gored each other in a pileup like it was some gay orgy video.
Plenty.
How about those toe clip pedals! I don't know how many times I've seen riders go down wearing those things. Downright DANGEROUS!!!! If those were legal, there would be riders falling down on train tracks and struggling to get loose from their bikes as a locomotive turned their bodies into Jeffrey Dahmer's fridge!!! I refuse to ride with toe clip guys!!
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Originally Posted by thenomad
Same for any "johnny tribar" or other cleverly named elitist nonsense group.
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The way this thread has degenerated reminds me why I started hanging out in the C&V and SS/FG forums more....
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Originally Posted by caloso
The way this thread has degenerated reminds me why I started hanging out in the C&V and SS/FG forums more....
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Originally Posted by FIVE ONE SIX
actually, the "johnny tribar" nickname that i used, is straight out of the January issue of Triathlete Magazine. so that elitist nonsence group that you're thinking of is... well... your own...
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I personally use toe clips (I leave them a little lose to get out of them) and clip on aero bars. I feel completely safe with them and my friends feel safe using aero bars and clips as well. We use them on long empty roads and when we get into a town or any traffic we use either the hoods or the drops where we can shift and brake. When used properly many of the things cyclists will call unsafe are actually very safe.
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Has anyone mentioned Team Time Trial yet? Admittedly, its a team of TT bikes only.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/tour-de-f...age-9/results/
https://www.cyclingnews.com/tour-de-f...age-9/results/