larch

I've been looking at getting a new bike and was wondering what you think of this bike's components. I'm trying to get an idea of what to look for when buying a road bike and what to stay away from. Also, any websites that have good prices on bikes/components would be great. Thanks for your input!

2007 Tirreno Razza 1000 Road Bike

Frame: 7005 Aluminum w/ Carbon seatstays/chainstays
Fork: Carbon blade w/ Alloy steerer
Headset: FSA Orbit IS-2, 1 1/8” Integrated
Crankset: FSA Gossamer Mega Exo Carbon Pro Compact, 34/50T
Bottom Bracket: FSA Mega Exo
Shifters: Shimano Ultegra STI 10-speed Double
Levers: Shimano Ultegra STI 10-speed
Handlebar: PZ Racing Carbon, Anatomic Flat Top, 31.8mm clamp
Stem: PZ Racing Carbon, 31.8mm clamp
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra, Double, 31.8mm clamp
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra, 10-speed
Cassette: Shimano 105, 11/23T, 10-speed
Brakes: Cane Creek SCR-5
Wheelset: Velomax Vista
Tires: Hutchinson Top Speed, 700 x 23C
Pedals: Not Included
Seatpost: Carbon/Alloy, 27.2mm x 300mm
Saddle: Selle Italia XO Trans Am Special Edition

CastIron

It's from Performance.

supertj

I recommend you buy one from LBS and haggle them down.

CastIron

Wow! Two tasteless options in three posts.

larch

How much is a reasonable haggle price? Say I'm looking at a 2006 Cannondale for around $1700.00. How much should ask for?

Thanks!

larch

What would you do CastIron?

Chucklehead

that's a decent price for that set-up. honestly, you could probably do a bit better component-wise for a bit less $$$ if you look around a little(not gonna say where, but someone else probably will). i have no opinion on the frame, though. it looks like a standard generic tube set.

CastIron

You're right. Sorry, I'm a bit snippy today.
I'd venture to an LBS and inquire about what leftover models they had at a discount within my budget. You should be able to do as well or better on quality/cost and still get properly fitted by (hopefully) a small business operator whose genuinely concerned with your riding future (and future as a customer).

I've netted my last two bikes at a sizeable discount this way.

Edit: an '06 C'dale R-1000 (ultegra, caad 8) should be findable for about the same price assuming -30% from list. Start hunting, it's half the fun.

larch

Thanks doghair and CastIron. I'll check around. I got my first bike from my LBS, but they fitted me with the old "stand-over" test (needless to say, my bike is about a size bigger than it should be), and I read somewhere that's about the worst way to fit yourself to a bike... anyway, I lost a little faith in that LBS and there aren't any "pro" LBSs close to where I live. I want to be as educated as possible with my next purchase.
Thanks, and have a good night all.

johnny99

Ask your cycling friends for recommendations on local bike shops that are good at fitting. Buying a bike via mail order is really hard if you can't compare the geometry chart to a bike that already fits you well.

supertj

I don't think its the worse way to start a fitting without paying. Make sure they adjust the saddle height and stem for you. Most LBS should be able to tell you from eyeballing when you're on the bike if it looks like a good fit and you should know yourself if it feels right. That's what you'll lack from buying online (trying out the bike and the free assembly).

dekalbSTEEL

Umm, to some, Performance is the LBS

https://www.performancebike.com/infor..._locations.cfm

Frugle

lbs... local bike store? I just freaking got that.. I was looking for a store named LBS.

So yeah, Performance is my LBS... and I really like that store, great people work there and I got %35 of list for my bike!

larch

lol I know... it took me a little while to figure that one out too when I first saw it.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I saw that there were 4 Performance stores coming to Ohio, 1 in Columbus. So I was kind of looking forward to having another option around town.

terrymorse 

Decent components at a fair price, but I would immediately replace that 11-23 cassette for a 12-27. When you hit a really steep climb, you'll be glad you did.

If you're a speed demon or like pedaling on descents, you can mix and match cogs and make the 12-27 into an 11-27.

oilman_15106

Look around, there are alot of NOS deals on road bikes right now. Which is kind of surprising. My LBS can supply this https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...enithcomp.html for $1300!

Almost told him to get one in my size but the N+1 theory has clogged my garage right now.

VT to CA

Here's the best bargain I've seen in awhile... full Ultegra, FSA SLK mega exo carbon cranks, not to mention American Classic 420's, Ritchey WCS post, stem and bars, cane creek SCR-5 brakes... 1,275 beats that performance deal by a mile.


https://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-Motobecane-0...QQcmdZViewItem

*Edit:

Just saw they have the identical bike at Bikesdirect for 20 bucks more (don't think that includes shipping though) if you need something other than a 54 or 56.

Also bikesdirect has this one that might be a better deal, just a couple hundred more gets you full Dura Ace and a nicer frame.

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...m07INSTOCK.htm

Yes... I dropped the bikesdirect bomb. Any snobs out there can lay it on me... but your words won't sting, because my ride is doper than yours!

Retro Grouch 

Generally it comes down to fit and budget.

Find a bike that fits you well and your budget will pretty well drive everything else.

If you're thinking of buying a mail order bike you need to have a pretty good idea of what's going to fit. No matter how wonderful the shifting, you only shift every once in a while. Fit affects your efficiency, comfort and performance every minute that you're on the bike.

Blaireau

I got a similar one last year (the Razza 2.0). Its been great! I tried Treks, SPecialized in the same price range, with lower quality components.
I say go for it!

Frugle

I agree.. I was looking for a 56-57 and found out I needed a 61..


BTW: I've been told that razzas run large, so if you get a 56, it is more like a 58..

larch

Again, thanks to everyone for their input and cycling wisdom.
I was wondering about carbon frames. Are they worth their hype? I had heard that if a carbon crank gets even a hairline crack in it then it's finished. But how easy is it to crack carbon? Please keep in mind that I am a cycling newbie.
I wouldn't get a carbon frame becase of the $$, but just wondering. I was asked about them a couple of weeks ago but couldn't answer the question.

cedricbosch

I'm a mechanic at Performance and have assembled quite a few of these.

They're excellent bikes, and I was considering buying one myself at one point. The frames are top-notch, and the components are the same as you'd find on any other bike.

Price-wise, these bikes have MSRP's that are INSANELY inflated so that when they are on sale (which they always are) they seem much more attractive.

Wait for a big Performance sale and pick one up.

johnny99

If a titanium or aluminum frame gets a hairline crack, it is also finished. In theory, you can fix a steel frame by welding it back, but most people will probably junk the frame. In practice, you need a pretty serious crash (or very defective manufacturing) for these problems to happen. Unless you are racing, you may never have a crash like that ever in your life. I know people with well over 50,000 miles on their carbon frames with no problems. If you are racing, you may be wise to stick to cheaper bikes until you get good enough for a good bike to really make a difference.

bob_s

I see you are up in Cols, these are not lbs in your area but just down the road in Cinci if you have a free Sat. It may be worth the 1.5hr drive. These two are well respected dealers, I bought mine from Jim's but would buy from either.

https://www.jimsbicycleshop.com/

https://www.oakleycycles.com/users/ariosa/index.htm