Ok lugheads, how sick am I?
09-02-07, 08:48 PM
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Ok lugheads, how sick am I?
So on my way to a short mini-vacation to Chicago a few days ago, I chose to pay homage to the Waterford factory and see if I could get the tour. The staff was all very nice and showed me around. I got to see some of the lug designs they are using and some of the new 953 tubing. It wasn't a huge factory, but nonetheless it was a really cool trip to see some neat bikes in various stages of development.
Now, I've had my current Waterfod 2200 or over nine years now and love it, but I just couldn't resist those new "Newvex" lugs and the possibility of a 953 polished chainstay on my bike. Unfortunately, it would cost them more to re-lug my frame than it would be to sell it and buy a new one. Oddly enough, my wife, a non-biker, even suggested I get a new bike with the newvex lugs.
Outside of just changing the lugs, I could "justify" a new bike as a polished chainstay would eliminate the annoyance of chipping paint there (a problem I currently have), and the new 2200's use a 27.2 seatpost as opposed to the 27.4 that is on mine. It would be nice to have more than a few options for seatposts.
My thinking seems flawed though, there's absolutely nothing wrong with my 2200, and it seems weird to buy a new bike just for the purpose of fancier lugs, although had they been available when I originally bought it I may have gone for it. Am I certifiable? Anybody else done something similar?
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Now, I've had my current Waterfod 2200 or over nine years now and love it, but I just couldn't resist those new "Newvex" lugs and the possibility of a 953 polished chainstay on my bike. Unfortunately, it would cost them more to re-lug my frame than it would be to sell it and buy a new one. Oddly enough, my wife, a non-biker, even suggested I get a new bike with the newvex lugs.
Outside of just changing the lugs, I could "justify" a new bike as a polished chainstay would eliminate the annoyance of chipping paint there (a problem I currently have), and the new 2200's use a 27.2 seatpost as opposed to the 27.4 that is on mine. It would be nice to have more than a few options for seatposts.
My thinking seems flawed though, there's absolutely nothing wrong with my 2200, and it seems weird to buy a new bike just for the purpose of fancier lugs, although had they been available when I originally bought it I may have gone for it. Am I certifiable? Anybody else done something similar?
Brian
09-02-07, 09:10 PM
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Preaching to the choir here I suppose. 
I knew you would all help me decide. Now the hard part is to sell the old frame. Anyone need a size 58 in red with a white head tube?
Actually, my wife would prefer I buy a tandem, but would probably somehow understand if I bought a new Waterford. I wonder what the value of a used 2200 is these days. What should one expect as a percentage of list for a nine year old frame?
I knew you would all help me decide. Now the hard part is to sell the old frame. Anyone need a size 58 in red with a white head tube? Actually, my wife would prefer I buy a tandem, but would probably somehow understand if I bought a new Waterford. I wonder what the value of a used 2200 is these days. What should one expect as a percentage of list for a nine year old frame?
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[QUOTE=Brian Anderson;5197500]Preaching to the choir here I suppose. I knew you would all help me decide. Now the hard part is to sell the old frame. Anyone need a size 58 in red with a white head tube?
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What a frame that only takes 27.4mm seatposts and with paint chips on the chainstay?
I knew you would all help me decide. Now the hard part is to sell the old frame. Anyone need a size 58 in red with a white head tube? *snip*QUOTE]
What a frame that only takes 27.4mm seatposts and with paint chips on the chainstay?
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
09-03-07, 12:03 AM
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I just built a blue '97 2200 and absolutely love it. And 58 is just my size. Maybe a red one to complement the stable?
Hmmmmmmm....
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Hmmmmmmm....
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I also have a 2200 lugged 853 waterford that I purchsed in late 1999.
As far as I am concerned best bike I have ever purchased.
Recently I had a Serotta made, a CDA great ride nice bike, but there is something about the waterford geometry that just makes it a better riding bike imo.
I called waterford last week to find a dealer close to where I live and I am seriously thinking of selling my Serotta and getting a new Waterford.
Sidenote here: On the stainless steel 953, if you prefer you can get the rear tri-angle done in stainless steel with lugs and have the front done in true-temper. I talked to mark about this 2 weeks ago as well as a young man if I remember his name was steve.
Keep the older Waterford if possible and just get the new one also.
As far as I am concerned best bike I have ever purchased.
Recently I had a Serotta made, a CDA great ride nice bike, but there is something about the waterford geometry that just makes it a better riding bike imo.
I called waterford last week to find a dealer close to where I live and I am seriously thinking of selling my Serotta and getting a new Waterford.
Sidenote here: On the stainless steel 953, if you prefer you can get the rear tri-angle done in stainless steel with lugs and have the front done in true-temper. I talked to mark about this 2 weeks ago as well as a young man if I remember his name was steve.
Keep the older Waterford if possible and just get the new one also.
09-03-07, 08:24 AM
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I'm disheartened by the prices I'm seeing for used frames. They offered to give me essentially trade in credit on my old frame, which I might do if I can't get a reasonable price for the frame. I'm awaiting a bonus check of sorts and depending on how large or small it is will be a deciding factor.
John (forget his last name) at Waterfod mentioned the same idea Hammer man, and I thought it was a great idea to use 953 for the rear triangle. Now just to decide if I want the bottom bracket lug polished or not. Methinks the head tube lugs and seat lug need to be.
