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Old 03-10-08, 02:28 PM
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Rate one of my local climbs

scale of 1-10

930 feet elev. gain
(540 descent)
7.5 miles

Just wondering where this climb stands in BF world.
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A 2.3% grade? Sort of a riser more than a climb no?
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2.3% grade for 7.5 miles?


Originally Posted by hero419
scale of 1-10

930 feet elev. gain
(540 descent)
7.5 miles

Just wondering where this climb stands in BF world.
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Originally Posted by hero419
930 feet elev. gain
(540 descent)
What does this mean?

I would probably rate it a 1.5 on a scale of 1-10.
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Originally Posted by hero419
scale of 1-10

930 feet elev. gain
(540 descent)
7.5 miles

Just wondering where this climb stands in BF world.
So the NET elevation gain is 930' and the ACTUAL elevation climbed is 1470' (930'+540')?

EDIT -- if you climbed 930' over 7.5 miles (grade = 2.35%), then I'd rate it a 1. If you climbed 1470' over 7.5 miles (grade = 3.7%), then I'd rate it a 3.
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I did more vertical than that in not many more miles doing bridge repeats Sunday. So sorry to say that's not even that much by Florida standards.
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Maybe, just maybe a 1.
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I wouldn't even find it much of a challenge, I'm afraid, and I suck at climbing
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.75........1.5 with a headwind.
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Originally Posted by celticfrost
So the NET elevation gain is 930' and the ACTUAL elevation climbed is 1470' (930'+540')?

EDIT -- if you climbed 930' over 7.5 miles (grade = 2.35%), then I'd rate it a 1. If you climbed 1470' over 7.5 miles (grade = 3.7%), then I'd rate it a 3.
I would say 3ish also for option 2.
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A little more than a false flat
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Yep, 1 or 3 depending on the total elevation gain. Either way, a pleasant spin,,,
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2, but this is judging by SoCal standards (hills nearly everywhere, great climbing).
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1. i climb almost that much over two miles on my way to classes every day.
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that would be in the 1-2 range.

the local "big" climb in the seattle area is 1400 ft over 2.5 miles (cougar mtn), which would rate closer to a 6-7 in my book.
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What about these?

or this one.


When I am short on time and need to get some quick climbing rides in, these are my favorites.
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Those are OK. Somewhere around 7 or 8 % for 3 miles.

Depends on your scale, of course. If I'm going locally, those are rated 134021 out of 10. If I'm going nationwide, looking for a climb, per se, those might be a 5 or so.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
Those are OK. Somewhere around 7 or 8 % for 3 miles.

Depends on your scale, of course. If I'm going locally, those are rated 134021 out of 10. If I'm going nationwide, looking for a climb, per se, those might be a 5 or so.
Depends what you're used to. There are plenty of 8% for 3 miles climbs in my area (near San Francisco). We might do several of them on a club ride. I wouldn't drive to find a hill like that unless it was part of a longer scenic loop.

If you're looking for a Tour de France style rating, hills with less than 1000 feet of elevation gain don't count for much. The serious climbs are 4000 feet or more in one continuous climb.
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For comparison sake Sierra Road was rated a Cat 1 at ToC. I think I have this right - it is 4.4 miles, 1750 feet elevation gain at an average 9.7%. So on the 1-10 scale Cat 1 must be a 7-8, right? Making HC a 9-10? Maybe we should just use categories instead?

Confession - I live about 500 meters from one of the toughest climbs around, one I am sufficiently intimidated by that haven't tried it yet (and I climb a fair amount). Marin St. in Berkeley is over 600 feet of gain in .93 miles. It averages 13% and that includes the flat spots between blocks. the top three blocks average 25%+ on the hills (22% including the flats between blocks). I did Pacific Grade last year pretty much no problem (as those things go) in my 34/25 and that maxes at 24%. Marin just spooks me though - maybe all the manual transmission cars I have seen stuck there.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
Depends what you're used to. There are plenty of 8% for 3 miles climbs in my area (near San Francisco). We might do several of them on a club ride. I wouldn't drive to find a hill like that unless it was part of a longer scenic loop.
Generally these would be a part of a 50-80 mile ride, but if I want to do hill repeats only, I'll drive to these.
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[QUOTE=hero419;6315787]scale of 1-10

930 feet elev. gain
(540 descent)

7.5 miles

Just wondering where this climb stands in BF world.[/
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I have the same problem ... the hills are always longer going up than down !!
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here's a couple, while not all that long they are still pretty tough.
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I have a hill by my house that climbs 850ft. in 8/10 of a mile. Thats a pretty good one.
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A: is map my ride accurate?
2: How do I post the elev. graph that it maps out?
III: It has to be more than a 1 or 3 so I need to prove it some how
Thanks
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Originally Posted by RelevantCycling
Confession - I live about 500 meters from one of the toughest climbs around, one I am sufficiently intimidated by that haven't tried it yet (and I climb a fair amount). Marin St. in Berkeley is over 600 feet of gain in .93 miles. It averages 13% and that includes the flat spots between blocks. the top three blocks average 25%+ on the hills (22% including the flats between blocks). I did Pacific Grade last year pretty much no problem (as those things go) in my 34/25 and that maxes at 24%. Marin just spooks me though - maybe all the manual transmission cars I have seen stuck there.
No better way to get better than to climb that bad boy (or girl). I would try it but probably fall over on the way up. But I would try again the next day.
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