Campagnolo Record '09!
06-02-08, 11:17 PM
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Yeah what's with that. I mean, functionally, I can work with either Record or Dura Ace, both function beautifully (I do happen to prefer the FD shift on Campy and the thumb shifter), but aesthetically Campy is so far ahead, especially in their cranksets. Do people really like that pie-plate attached to their BB?
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06-03-08, 12:01 AM
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I did a test ride on a bike outfitted with SRAM Rival, and the extreme outward sweep of the shifters was really hard on my wrists. If Shimano ends up using this shape for Ultegra as well, Campy may have yet another convert.
06-03-08, 12:16 AM
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The improvement is that it's one lever, so you don't have 1) a brake lever that also rotates, or 2) the thumb shifter sticking out the side. I like always reaching for the same lever regardless.
Campy's the only one who offers more than one upshift at a time on the rear der. Or they did. I heard they recently removed this feature?
Where do people get the idea that SRAM has no FD trim? Rival and force both have trim in the little ring, and Red has it in the big ring. Apparently, the change was done at the request of Pros, FWIW.
Personally, I could care less since I don't seem to need it in either one. But it's there for people who want it.
06-03-08, 12:21 AM
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if you mean the outward sweep of the brake lever itself (at first, I thought you meant the hoods), you're supposed to angle the hoods in a bit. This makes the levers more or less even with the drops. At least, that's how I set mine up, and I find them really comfy as a result. As a bonus, the hoods aren't pointing straight forward, so your wrists sit at a more comfortable (to me anyway) turned in angle when you're on the hoods.
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06-03-08, 01:36 AM
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06-03-08, 03:22 AM
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06-03-08, 03:29 AM
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I did a test ride on a bike outfitted with SRAM Rival, and the extreme outward sweep of the shifters was really hard on my wrists. If Shimano ends up using this shape for Ultegra as well, Campy may have yet another convert.
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the 'sweep' that you refer to was never an issue.
06-03-08, 05:12 AM
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That DA brifter just... looks... cheap. I don't know what it is about it, but it looks junky. I run Record on my BMC, and like it more then DA. The main reason is that I can slam it and shift down 10-gears at once (likewise for coming up, although it's not 10). A lot of people don't like the thumbshifter, but that's one of the things I really like about it, so to see the '09 teaser pics with no thumbshifters kind of blows. Maybe they'll keep them on their cheaper lines?
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06-03-08, 05:29 AM
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I doubt it is going to look exactly like this.
OEMs put together work horses, that dont have all of the detail of the finished product, to test them out for function, durability etc. If that is a picture of the '09 brifter its pre-production and I bet it will look much different when it comes out.
06-03-08, 05:52 AM
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FWIW, I believe those are shots of the electronic Record, not the new mechanical version, so it may have a different shifting system.
Not to say Campy wouldn't change the hood shape on both a mechanical and electronic group, but that's definitely their long-rumored electronic bits.
Not to say Campy wouldn't change the hood shape on both a mechanical and electronic group, but that's definitely their long-rumored electronic bits.
06-03-08, 06:05 AM
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Okay . . . they're ALL ugly. The Shimano looks industrial. The Campy looks cheap with its exposed brads. So, there.
But they both seem to work okay.
But they both seem to work okay.
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You're kidding right? If not, those are the brake release buttons.
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"If these were true prototypes we would have expected the bodies and lever blades to be made using typical small batch procedures such as CNC machining, stereolithography or selective laser sintering, yet the composite body and carbon lever blades indicate that final, or nearly final, molds have already been cut."
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If these were true prototypes we would have expected the bodies and lever blades to be made using typical small batch procedures such as CNC machining, stereolithography or selective laser sintering, yet the composite body and carbon lever blades indicate that final, or nearly final, molds have already been cut."
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Thats 3 extra functions you have to make on the SRAM just to do 1 on the DA... dumb!
At least Shimano lets you go 1 up and 1 down including the 3 up.
You want more shifting work??? go SRAM!
The improvement is that it's one lever, so you don't have 1) a brake lever that also rotates, or 2) the thumb shifter sticking out the side. I like always reaching for the same lever regardless.
Where do people get the idea that SRAM has no FD trim? Rival and force both have trim in the little ring, and Red has it in the big ring. Apparently, the change was done at the request of Pros, FWIW.
Personally, I could care less since I don't seem to need it in either one. But it's there for people who want it.
Personally, I could care less since I don't seem to need it in either one. But it's there for people who want it.
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06-03-08, 08:06 AM
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I dont think you get it. SRAM is "ONLY" 3 up 1 down. Meaning you CANT go up 1 gear if you wanted to. If you wanted to go up 1 gear you would have to sweep up 3 then do 2 more small clicks to get to the gear you wanted.
At least Shimano lets you go 1 up and 1 down including the 3 up.
You want more shifting work??? go SRAM!
At least Shimano lets you go 1 up and 1 down including the 3 up.
You want more shifting work??? go SRAM!