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Old 03-07-14, 09:06 AM
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Recently cleaned up my bike. Finally committed to the shower method.



It's no wonder I'm still single.
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Originally Posted by THSdrummer
Recently cleaned up my bike. Finally committed to the shower method.



It's no wonder I'm still single.
Did that myself yesterday! And then I started wondering...should I be concerned about getting water in the BB?
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Originally Posted by THSdrummer
Recently cleaned up my bike. Finally committed to the shower method.



It's no wonder I'm still single.
I approve of this post.
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Did that myself yesterday! And then I started wondering...should I be concerned about getting water in the BB?
Do you ride in the rain?
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Originally Posted by 01silver4
I guest this is boring right? some of the the baddest and fastest machines in the world sports this color. I wonder if i would look boring going down the road in one of these? and one more thing black is timeless.
yes you would look like a kook because that car aint even real. bugatti veyron with some nissan 350z body kit on it. 'stealth' stuff is the worst. Unless you are riding dirty in one of these.



winter needs to get lost
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Can't comment on the Stages PM yet. I have yet had a chance to ride it since I finished putting it together. A fellow teammate has been using the Stages PM for over a year. He has no complaint. These are reasons why I chose Stages PM (descending order).

1. I hate BB30. Period.
2. I like 6800 crankset for its flexibility. I can change from compact to std chain rings without changing the spider/crankarm.
3. For the same flexibility reason, I can move the Stages PM to another bike very easy.
4. Stages PM + 6800 crankset is lighter than any crank based PM.
5. Having a full Shimano drivetrain is aesthetically pleasing.
BB30 aside, a hollowgram crank would meet these criteria and be lighter still and it's a pretty sick looking crank with with spidering.

Not a caad, but...

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Originally Posted by bikerjp
BB30 aside, a hollowgram crank would meet these criteria and be lighter still and it's a pretty sick looking crank with with spidering.

Not a caad, but...

True. While I don't dislike the Hollowgram cranks... They are freakin expensive. I got my 6800 crankset for $240.
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Originally Posted by prankster
True. While I don't dislike the Hollowgram cranks... They are freakin expensive. I got my 6800 crankset for $240.
Awesome isn't cheap.
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Originally Posted by prankster
True. While I don't dislike the Hollowgram cranks... They are freakin expensive. I got my 6800 crankset for $240.

Tell me about it, been looking up some hollowgrams on ebay, even the older stuff is rediciulously out of my price range. May have to look into different alternatives if i want to upgrade in the near future. For now im picking up some older hollowgram chain rings to replace the chrome FSAs the caad10 3 came with just to black out the bike a bit more, mere aesthetic purposes.

Do hollowgrams eliminate the issues associated with bb30 all together?
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Originally Posted by fizzle
Do hollowgrams eliminate the issues associated with bb30 all together?
Pretty sure most BB30 issues are shell or bearing issues not crank issues.

I noticed the Evo is using PF30. Is this supposed to be better than straight BB30? Why not build the caad with PF30 if that's the case.
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What you think about these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-H...e#ht_559wt_662

Not these exactly, as Im not quite sure what size crank arms till I get a closer look when I get home. Or is ditching the bb30 all together a better option.
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That's not a hollowgram crank. Looks like it's a carbon FSA but not sure what model. You can't ditch BB30 unless you buy a non BB30 bike. You can put an adapter in and use different cranks but I don't really get the benefit of doing that. You now have another piece in there to creak or whatever plus the added weight. If someone wants to use non BB30 cranks I think it would be best to just buy a non BB30 bike. If you have BB30 then live with it. It's not that bad and some argue better.
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Originally Posted by fizzle
Tell me about it, been looking up some hollowgrams on ebay, even the older stuff is rediciulously out of my price range. May have to look into different alternatives if i want to upgrade in the near future. For now im picking up some older hollowgram chain rings to replace the chrome FSAs the caad10 3 came with just to black out the bike a bit more, mere aesthetic purposes.

Do hollowgrams eliminate the issues associated with bb30 all together?
I'd like to eventually end-up with a Power2Max meter, SI crank arms, maybe Praxis rings.
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Originally Posted by bikerjp
That's not a hollowgram crank. Looks like it's a carbon FSA but not sure what model. You can't ditch BB30 unless you buy a non BB30 bike. You can put an adapter in and use different cranks but I don't really get the benefit of doing that. You now have another piece in there to creak or whatever plus the added weight. If someone wants to use non BB30 cranks I think it would be best to just buy a non BB30 bike. If you have BB30 then live with it. It's not that bad and some argue better.
You make it sound like there are good, CAAD10 competitors out there with an English BB. The frame is the soul, that's why I'm running an adapter.
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Originally Posted by fizzle
What you think about these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-H...e#ht_559wt_662

Not these exactly, as Im not quite sure what size crank arms till I get a closer look when I get home. Or is ditching the bb30 all together a better option.
Like Bikerjp said. Crankset isn't the issue. The BB design is the issue. I can understand why BB30 is so appealing to bike manufacturers apart from the arguable "stiffer" claim.

Some people use Wheels Manufacturing BB30 adapter they claimed it fixed the issue due to plastic to metal contact. I'm still skeptical with the lack of sealing. So I went to the more expensive route, Praxis Works BB30 adapter. Please do research before making any decision. Don't just believe the internet.
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
You make it sound like there are good, CAAD10 competitors out there with an English BB. The frame is the soul, that's why I'm running an adapter.
point taken.
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Originally Posted by bikerjp
point taken.
I did all I could to talk myself into CC slamming an SISL crank when I bought the frame, but I couldn't take the pain.
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Thanks for the input guys. Yea what i meant was ditching the BB30 cranks and going with an adapter and another crank setup of sorts. Well make sure you keep us updated on your new build, Im curious to know how that turns out for you.
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Question about:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-H...e#ht_559wt_662

I can use already installed BB and bearings in frame correct? just pop off my exsisting FSA arms/rings?
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq

Do you ride in the rain?
Nah, how else am I supposed to sell it on Ebay if I can't say... Like new, only 50 miles, never been ridden in the rain, or snow.

Oh in case it is actually needed (international symbol for sarcasm)

And point taken
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
I'd like to eventually end-up with a Power2Max meter, SI crank arms, maybe Praxis rings.
That's the exact power meter I want.

If Quarqs dropped in price, I'd highly consider them, otherwise I want the above.
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Originally Posted by THSdrummer
That's the exact power meter I want.

If Quarqs dropped in price, I'd highly consider them, otherwise I want the above.
Right now I'm fighting "Campy Fever", so there's no telling what I'm going to end up with in the future. For now, I'm just logging miles on my new Shimano stuff, lol.
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
Right now I'm fighting "Campy Fever", so there's no telling what I'm going to end up with in the future. For now, I'm just logging miles on my new Shimano stuff, lol.
It seems we are all to similar. I'd like to upgrade my 6700 to 6800 or Campy for improved hood ergonomics, but I honestly should just log a solid summer before I drop $500+ cash to switch groupsets. Either way, I'd still like to run a P2M/Quarq/Praxis power meter crankset.

Right now I'm just debating whether I should finally go with some new wheels. I'd really like to pull the trigger, but I also want a suit for wedding season. A check from snow shoveling will arrive soon, which means I'll have enough cash to pull the trigger on the wheels if I so choose...
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Originally Posted by THSdrummer
It seems we are all to similar. I'd like to upgrade my 6700 to 6800 or Campy for improved hood ergonomics, but I honestly should just log a solid summer before I drop $500+ cash to switch groupsets. Either way, I'd still like to run a P2M/Quarq/Praxis power meter crankset.

Right now I'm just debating whether I should finally go with some new wheels. I'd really like to pull the trigger, but I also want a suit for wedding season. A check from snow shoveling will arrive soon, which means I'll have enough cash to pull the trigger on the wheels if I so choose...
I went from Ksyrium Elites to Flo 30s, very happy with them and they're relatively cheap.

I wonder if I can get out my FSA english adapter out of my frame to run a BB30 crank? I'm happy with the 6700 crank, and should probably save my cash and just buy 52/39 rings.
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Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
I went from Ksyrium Elites to Flo 30s, very happy with them and they're relatively cheap.

I wonder if I can get out my FSA english adapter out of my frame to run a BB30 crank? I'm happy with the 6700 crank, and should probably save my cash and just buy 52/39 rings.
Very nice. I looked into Flo wheels for quite sometime. I'm still riding stock Mavic Aksium wheels and tires. I'm looking at a Pacenti SL23 build from PSIMET.

I do think the 6800 crank looks good, and have considered switching to it, but that'd be a mostly aesthetic choice. I can live with my FSA SL-K Light crankset for the time being. I have entertained the thought of going to Praxis chainrings in 50/36. I always seem to get caught between front chainrings and I think switching up to a 36 would help alleviate that a bit. I might have to switch to a 12-28 cassette out back though... Or I could ride more and get stronger, right? Haha

Thanks for letting me think out loud. What do you think of the FLO 30 wheels? I really was looking into FLO wheels for a long time, but have since opted for a lightweight aluminum clincher since it's better suited to my purposes.
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Well, after a LONG week of tests putting it off, finally got it back up and running

Went by the LBS and picked up a ravx 3-15nm torque wrench: 80$
drove around town looking for an extender to reach down into the top cap to get the expander: 5$ in gas
drove to my apartment, picked up my bike and drove back to the lbs to ask how I make it reach it: 2$ in gas
The look on my face when the dude separated the expander from the top cap to install it: priceless



Thinking about it, having 5nm and 6nm preset torque wrenches...I have no use for this thing lol.

Also...my phone takes REALLY crappy pictures in low light.
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