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Old 12-10-14, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by thewilson
Isn't the black inc frame set up for only electrical?
I think they're di2 ready, but you can use mechanical group set on them.
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Originally Posted by rms13
I'm looking at a used 07 caad 8. Looking back at the catalog I noticed that they had a caad 8 and caad 9 that year. Doesn't anyone know if they are different frames in the sense that the current caad 8 and caad 10 are or was it basically a difference in components? I can't see the geo chart so not sure if everything is the same

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CAAD 8 and CAAD 9 had different tube profiles. The CAAD 9 frame was lighter and stiffer than the CAAD 8. They were not the same frame at all.
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Originally Posted by rockwell1222
Hi, newbie to road bikes here. I'm looking at this caad 10 black inc frame set and a caad 10 105 built bike.planning on building the black inc frame with 105s. The only thing is,the black inc frame is size 50 & the built bike is size 52, I'm 5'10", which one should I get?
If you are 5'10 you should probably be on a 54 at the smallest. Have you gone to the shop and test rode them yet? I'm about 5'11 and I used to have a caad size 54. It worked for me with a long 120 mm stem but it still felt a little cramped especially if I was riding over 20 miles. I would bet you would be between a 54 and 56 depending on your proportions.
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Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
CAAD 8 and CAAD 9 had different tube profiles. The CAAD 9 frame was lighter and stiffer than the CAAD 8. They were not the same frame at all.
Thanks. The CAAD8 I'm looking at is Optimo Alcalyte tubing. I previously had a caad 9 frame that I loved except for the fact that it was a little small and had never ending bb30 creaking. This caad8 doesn't have bb30 which is a plus to me after my bad experiences but I want something that feels as light and stiff as the caad9 did. Especially now that I'm riding a Giant TCR Advanced SL which is also very stiff and responsive.
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Originally Posted by rms13
Thanks. The CAAD8 I'm looking at is Optimo Alcalyte tubing. I previously had a caad 9 frame that I loved except for the fact that it was a little small and had never ending bb30 creaking. This caad8 doesn't have bb30 which is a plus to me after my bad experiences but I want something that feels as light and stiff as the caad9 did. Especially now that I'm riding a Giant TCR Advanced SL which is also very stiff and responsive.
I am pretty sure the CAAD 8 and CAAD 9 from 2007 had standard cranks not BB30. I believe only the SystemSix had BB30 at the time.
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[QUOTE=thewilson;17377718]Isn't the black inc frame set up for only electrical?[/QUOTE

yes it can only use di2
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
Finished this build:
Seriously smooth frames they had back then. I wish I still had mine. The seams where all the tubes meet are flawless.
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[QUOTE=yosh3;17378496]
Originally Posted by thewilson
Isn't the black inc frame set up for only electrical?[/QUOTE

yes it can only use di2
This varied by year.

2015 CAAD10 Black is SRAM Red22/Hydro Disc
2014 CAAD10 Black was SRAM Red22
2013 CAAD10 Black was 6770Di2 only


So newer frames were mechanical. oldest frame was electrical only
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Caad5 & caad10

Here they are. The old CAAD5 and fairly new CAAD10.





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Originally Posted by klondike300
Seriously smooth frames they had back then. I wish I still had mine. The seams where all the tubes meet are flawless.
Smoother than today, even.
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Originally Posted by rms13
If you are 5'10 you should probably be on a 54 at the smallest. Have you gone to the shop and test rode them yet? I'm about 5'11 and I used to have a caad size 54. It worked for me with a long 120 mm stem but it still felt a little cramped especially if I was riding over 20 miles. I would bet you would be between a 54 and 56 depending on your proportions.
Thanks for the insight. Been to two shops & they keep telling me that I should get a size smaller would be more comfortable for long rides & make climbing easier. Besides,they don't have a caad 10 black inc built bike in size 54 for me to try.
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Originally Posted by rockwell1222
Thanks for the insight. Been to two shops & they keep telling me that I should get a size smaller would be more comfortable for long rides & make climbing easier. Besides,they don't have a caad 10 black inc built bike in size 54 for me to try.
Whether or not they have a Black Inc is not relevant. If you are checking for size any CAAD 10 will do. Be careful and honest about flexibility and fitness. There will be a difference in both reach and stack between a 54 cm and 56 cm that could make one uncomfortable and the other better. I am 5'10.5" and ride a 56 cm for two reasons, first, I didn't want to go longer than 110 mm on the stem and second, I am old & fat and lack a bit of flexibility. I know how low I can ride for extended periods, so my saddle to handlebar drop can only be between 7 cm to 8 cm depending on the bars. This way I can ride in the drops when I need to and still be as aero as any old guy can be, but not too high when riding the hoods. You can't always listen to shop sale people and owners, they really want to sell you primarily what they have in the store, LBS in this respect are not like car dealerships, they really need to sell off current inventory first.

One more thing, comfort has much more to do with physiology and less to do with frame size, If your ideal size if a 55 cm the any 54 cm to 56 cm can be fit properly. The differences between a 54 cm and 56 cm in climbing are non-existent if both fit properly and anyone who says different has an agenda.
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Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
Whether or not they have a Black Inc is not relevant. If you are checking for size any CAAD 10 will do. Be careful and honest about flexibility and fitness. There will be a difference in both reach and stack between a 54 cm and 56 cm that could make one uncomfortable and the other better. I am 5'10.5" and ride a 56 cm for two reasons, first, I didn't want to go longer than 110 mm on the stem and second, I am old & fat and lack a bit of flexibility. I know how low I can ride for extended periods, so my saddle to handlebar drop can only be between 7 cm to 8 cm depending on the bars. This way I can ride in the drops when I need to and still be as aero as any old guy can be, but not too high when riding the hoods. You can't always listen to shop sale people and owners, they really want to sell you primarily what they have in the store, LBS in this respect are not like car dealerships, they really need to sell off current inventory first.

One more thing, comfort has much more to do with physiology and less to do with frame size, If your ideal size if a 55 cm the any 54 cm to 56 cm can be fit properly. The differences between a 54 cm and 56 cm in climbing are non-existent if both fit properly and anyone who says different has an agenda.
Thank you so much for your detailed input. This would really help me decide better on what size to get.
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I put some new wheels on the bike. The next thing I would like to add to the bike is some black praxis chainrings & it should look perfect. It doesn't take much to make these CAADs look good. I do kind of want to switch to a 58cm frame though.



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Nice CAAD there mate, but why would you want a 58cm frame when it looks as though you're stretching a 60cm frame a fair bit - judging by the amount of seatpost showing???
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Originally Posted by macca33
Nice CAAD there mate, but why would you want a 58cm frame when it looks as though you're stretching a 60cm frame a fair bit - judging by the amount of seatpost showing???
Smaller , lighter bike? I am 6ft2in.
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Just joined the club. Need some new bars and cranks, but besides that it's a really solid bike. Also in off-season mode, hence the wrong-side-up stem.
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Originally Posted by rockwell1222
Thank you so much for your detailed input. This would really help me decide better on what size to get.
For what it's worth, I'm 5'10.5" with a 33" inseam and I'm riding a 54cm CAAD 10 with a 110mm stem. My bike feels right but I don't think I would want to go any smaller as far as the frame size is concerned.
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Well, what do we have here....?
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Originally Posted by LarRig
For what it's worth, I'm 5'10.5" with a 33" inseam and I'm riding a 54cm CAAD 10 with a 110mm stem. My bike feels right but I don't think I would want to go any smaller as far as the frame size is concerned.
I am the same size as you and a 54cm had too much saddle to bar drop plus I needed a 120mm stem to be comfortable. So this is what I was saying, when you buy a bike you can't be swayed by what and how others ride, or want you to ride. The poster needs to make an honest evaluation of their fitness and flexibility and then find the bike that fits that person, not the racer everyone thinks they are. One of the saddest things I have seen is a person who buys a bike because it looks like the racer bike and in a year it hangs in the garage only to be ridden on that one month MS150 training and event or not ridden at all and collecting dust.
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I am 5'10" 32 inseam and bought a 56,
I had to use a shorter stem, a 54 would fit me better but I am ok with it now.
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Originally Posted by igotyofire
Smaller , lighter bike? I am 6ft2in.

Fair enough - makes sense now. At 6'1" a 58cm fits me very nicely, so it should work well for you also.

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Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
I am the same size as you and a 54cm had too much saddle to bar drop plus I needed a 120mm stem to be comfortable. So this is what I was saying, when you buy a bike you can't be swayed by what and how others ride, or want you to ride. The poster needs to make an honest evaluation of their fitness and flexibility and then find the bike that fits that person, not the racer everyone thinks they are. One of the saddest things I have seen is a person who buys a bike because it looks like the racer bike and in a year it hangs in the garage only to be ridden on that one month MS150 training and event or not ridden at all and collecting dust.
I tried a 120mm stem out of curiosity but felt too stretched out. There's definitely more to it than just measurements.
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Is 500 for a CAAD10 frameset too much to ask for? I've had mine listed for about 3 weeks now, and I haven't gotten a single hit.
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Is 500 for a CAAD10 frameset too much to ask for? I've had mine listed for about 3 weeks now, and I haven't gotten a single hit.
I wouldn't think so, depending on the condition. You might just be trying to sell it at the wrong time of year; nobody buys used Al frames as Christmas presents. Maybe in January somebody's granny will have given them a big wedge of cash to spend and they'll come looking then.
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