PCad finally rides Di2. Pcad yawns.
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OK, the(redacted) crack was totally uncalled for. I apologize, particularly to my good Asian pals on this board (all of whom possess enough of a sense of humor and a thick enough skin to not care). But those Shimano guys are pissing me off.
Feel free to retaliate with any butt oriented Greek jokes. I've been hearing them my whole life.
Feel free to retaliate with any butt oriented Greek jokes. I've been hearing them my whole life.
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You will never switch over to SRAM and you know it. I'd love to pick up the Ultegra version of Di2 if I can get the whole group for under 2k.
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if you switch to sram, you are dead to me.
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I still respect Shimano for the fact that they continue to product Dura-Ace branded downtube shifters--there's some solidarity and hope in the fact that they still believe in the simple functionality of bikes, or at least some of their customers do.
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#34
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You've GOT to be kidding me. That is what all the Di2 fuss is about?
Rode a Di2 equipped Super Six on Saturday. Was it nifty? Yeah, OK. Is this the future of high end bike components? Well, yeah, maybe if the manufacturers figure it's cheaper to make the stuff this way.
Does it deliver any appreciable big advantage over mechanical shifting?
No, with the possible exception of ability easily locate shift buttons in different places.
Is this worth a $2K premium to a high end mechanical bike group?
Of course not. And that's why nobody is buying it. It's the question nobody asked. And after riding it I am not convinced anybody really cares. I don't.
You must be joking. If Shimano has a friggin brain in its (redacted) (they don't) they'll drop the price on this crap hard to counter SRAM who came out of nowhere 4-5 years ago and is gobbling market share from them like Pac Man. They really are idiots. I'm ready to go Sram. Shimano has lost its way.
Rode a Di2 equipped Super Six on Saturday. Was it nifty? Yeah, OK. Is this the future of high end bike components? Well, yeah, maybe if the manufacturers figure it's cheaper to make the stuff this way.
Does it deliver any appreciable big advantage over mechanical shifting?
No, with the possible exception of ability easily locate shift buttons in different places.
Is this worth a $2K premium to a high end mechanical bike group?
Of course not. And that's why nobody is buying it. It's the question nobody asked. And after riding it I am not convinced anybody really cares. I don't.
You must be joking. If Shimano has a friggin brain in its (redacted) (they don't) they'll drop the price on this crap hard to counter SRAM who came out of nowhere 4-5 years ago and is gobbling market share from them like Pac Man. They really are idiots. I'm ready to go Sram. Shimano has lost its way.
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I'd like to try Di2. I am opposed to actually having a bike of my own with it. I can't see any need for electronic assistance for shifting. I am in no way opposed to any one else using and enjoying it.
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? must be an american slang. you people butcher our language.
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like hell. i'll be a fan of rooney before I go to sram, even if cycling god pcad does it.
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You've GOT to be kidding me. That is what all the Di2 fuss is about?
Rode a Di2 equipped Super Six on Saturday. Was it nifty? Yeah, OK. Is this the future of high end bike components? Well, yeah, maybe if the manufacturers figure it's cheaper to make the stuff this way.
Does it deliver any appreciable big advantage over mechanical shifting?
No, with the possible exception of ability easily locate shift buttons in different places.
Is this worth a $2K premium to a high end mechanical bike group?
Of course not. And that's why nobody is buying it. It's the question nobody asked. And after riding it I am not convinced anybody really cares. I don't.
You must be joking. If Shimano has a friggin brain in its (redacted) (they don't) they'll drop the price on this crap hard to counter SRAM who came out of nowhere 4-5 years ago and is gobbling market share from them like Pac Man. They really are idiots. I'm ready to go Sram. Shimano has lost its way.
Rode a Di2 equipped Super Six on Saturday. Was it nifty? Yeah, OK. Is this the future of high end bike components? Well, yeah, maybe if the manufacturers figure it's cheaper to make the stuff this way.
Does it deliver any appreciable big advantage over mechanical shifting?
No, with the possible exception of ability easily locate shift buttons in different places.
Is this worth a $2K premium to a high end mechanical bike group?
Of course not. And that's why nobody is buying it. It's the question nobody asked. And after riding it I am not convinced anybody really cares. I don't.
You must be joking. If Shimano has a friggin brain in its (redacted) (they don't) they'll drop the price on this crap hard to counter SRAM who came out of nowhere 4-5 years ago and is gobbling market share from them like Pac Man. They really are idiots. I'm ready to go Sram. Shimano has lost its way.
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It's pretty much like SRAM, or Shimano for that matter. Read instructions, follow instructions.
All I know is that the 2011 Campagnolo stuff blows away the SRAM Red shifting on my other bikes in terms of actuation and also being able to shift more gears in one sweep--I didn't think the last point really mattered until I had both systems to compare with.
All I know is that the 2011 Campagnolo stuff blows away the SRAM Red shifting on my other bikes in terms of actuation and also being able to shift more gears in one sweep--I didn't think the last point really mattered until I had both systems to compare with.
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PCAD, what if the electric shifting was automatic, or something. Like you list a cadence that you would like to maintain and it does the shifting for you.
You would be all over that.
You would be all over that.
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how much of the yawn is cost and weight - if those were equal or close to it for electronic vs mechanical, would the answer differ? what about the ability to program combo FD/RD shifts or shift jumps ala F1's 7th to 2nd buttons?
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Originally Posted by patentcad
If Shimano has a friggin brain in its(redacted) (they don't)
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