Which kind of car is the best for biking?
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I recently got a Ford Escape. It's comfortable, powerful and holds everything I need it to (and yes, I actually have a use for the space since I do TV production). The only thing that sucks is the gas mileage, but I knew this going in. I wish the hybrid Escapes had been more readily available when it was time to get mine. The included hitch makes mounting my road and mtb easy using a Performance 3-bike rack.
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Originally Posted by Don Cook
I've noticed something that is somewhat perplexing. In virtually all threads that touch upon vehicles, there is a vehement unexplainable trashing of "SUVs". Is it the image of married people with kids, living in the burbs and voting republican that is associated with SUVs that causes such venomous attitudes? Maybe? When an objective view is taken of these types of vehicles, it doesn't make sense that they get all of the negative words and no one says much about pickup trucks, Cadillac Fleetwood Broughams etceterras. If the issue is fuel economy, then let's set some MPG level at which you can agree to trash the people and their vehicles that fall below your standard.
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If you are a family man here are some great bike/kid haulers. Audi S4 Avant, Audi Allroad, Audi S6 Avant, or a Volvo V70R. Or if you are into SUV's I've got a like new 99 Expidition fully loaded with only 57kmi for $12.8k.
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Impreza WRX STi
Altima SE-R
Legacy GT sedan or wagon
300C
new Charger, whenever it hits
Magnum
upcoming Mazdaspeed 6
Escape Hybrid
Convert, you on nasioc?
As for Subaru becoming more popular with roadies since Lance, some of us were in them before their little association.
Altima SE-R
Legacy GT sedan or wagon
300C
new Charger, whenever it hits
Magnum
upcoming Mazdaspeed 6
Escape Hybrid
Convert, you on nasioc?
As for Subaru becoming more popular with roadies since Lance, some of us were in them before their little association.
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hey, i looove, love... ok strongly like my 96 jetta gls...but i'd go for a 99 if your looking at this kinda car cause they fixed alot of the things that were first wrong with the MKIII style...i.e. door handles break every 5-10k, door moulding (on outside fall off all the time) and the woindows mysterioulsy drop often at high speed travel...a $200+ repair unless you can go to a junk yard and hunt... so over all my car is OK i guess but thats my two cents. I was recently looking for a new car and decided on a mazda 3 wagon, it would be in my driveway but im gonna try and wait till after the winter to start on car payments, back to work, good luck sorry bout the accident, glad your ok
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Originally Posted by Don Cook
In virtually all threads that touch upon vehicles, there is a vehement unexplainable trashing of "SUVs". Is it the image of married people with kids, living in the burbs and voting republican that is associated with SUVs that causes such venomous attitudes? Maybe? .
SUV- suburban ugly venom or stupid unnecessary vehicle
Anything more than a 2.0L 4 cylinder is excessive and selfish.
P.S I have strong convictions about this topic.
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I was in a Ford dealer the first year the huge ones came out. I looked underneath the body and saw a pair of I beams. I got pissed.
Ford knows better, it's just being cynical. We have known for a generation that crush zones do a better job at protecting people.
The heavy metal beams are there to give the appearance of safety.
But it creates that appearance by substantially increasing risk to people in other vehicles. You can be in another large SUV, if you get t-boned that energy is going to get transfered into you.Of course, if you hit a more massive object, those beams work just as well at transfering the energy back at you. At first I thought people had gotten smarter than to buy into such nonsense. But I console myself with the thought that tens of thosuands of the idiots will remove themselves from the gene pool in rollovers.
Ford knows better, it's just being cynical. We have known for a generation that crush zones do a better job at protecting people.
The heavy metal beams are there to give the appearance of safety.
But it creates that appearance by substantially increasing risk to people in other vehicles. You can be in another large SUV, if you get t-boned that energy is going to get transfered into you.Of course, if you hit a more massive object, those beams work just as well at transfering the energy back at you. At first I thought people had gotten smarter than to buy into such nonsense. But I console myself with the thought that tens of thosuands of the idiots will remove themselves from the gene pool in rollovers.
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About any car would do, I'd guess. I love my Camry, so I had a real trailer hitch installed so that I could slide in a 1 1/4" or 2" (with adaptor) hitch.
Now, though, I've about decided I'd like a roof-mount rack. I'm a tall guy, and I could easily handle it. I'm just not sure yet about drilling holes in my roof or buying another rack.
Now, though, I've about decided I'd like a roof-mount rack. I'm a tall guy, and I could easily handle it. I'm just not sure yet about drilling holes in my roof or buying another rack.
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You may speak with the consensus in the roadie section, but I was trashing suburbanites as they an integral part of the problem. They have to drive EVERYWHERE. Even if they wanted to bike or walk, the roads are not friendly towards them, not to mention they'll get looked down upon.
Yes, biking is a functional form of transportation, not just a nice ride on the weekend before you put your bike back on your $30K car and drive home.
Yes, biking is a functional form of transportation, not just a nice ride on the weekend before you put your bike back on your $30K car and drive home.
Originally Posted by greenstork
To set the record straight, the issue is most assuredly MPG and not trashing suburbanites. I think it's wisest to leave it at that, since I have seen many of these conversations go awry.
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Originally Posted by recneps345
Also if you can afford a 40-50K suv, you can afford the gas to put in it. Everyone is talking about this Subaru Outback. The thing gets 22mpg in the city. My Tahoe gets 16mpg in the city and I got it for 29,000 new. The Kelly Blue Book value for the Subaru is like $27,500. You have got to be kidding me, for a Subaru. My brother just got a Hummer. The thing gets like 10mpg. He has four kids, two labs, and likes to hunt. If your Subaru gets in the way of his Hummer. I think he and his kids are going to be safer.
The odds of dying in a crash are much greater in a behemoth SUV than in a smaller vehicle. It’s a fact.
A nice car for the cyclist is a Ford Tarus wagon. Good mileage, good repair record, extra room in the back, easy to load bikes on the roof.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
TripleCrank, Markedoc...... Please listen very carefully..........
UNIMOG!!!! It will solve this. It's a nice little SUV, but runs on diesel.
UNIMOG!!!! It will solve this. It's a nice little SUV, but runs on diesel.
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Originally Posted by late
I was in a Ford dealer the first year the huge ones came out. I looked underneath the body and saw a pair of I beams. I got pissed.
Ford knows better, it's just being cynical. We have known for a generation that crush zones do a better job at protecting people.
The heavy metal beams are there to give the appearance of safety.
But it creates that appearance by substantially increasing risk to people in other vehicles. You can be in another large SUV, if you get t-boned that energy is going to get transfered into you.Of course, if you hit a more massive object, those beams work just as well at transfering the energy back at you. At first I thought people had gotten smarter than to buy into such nonsense. But I console myself with the thought that tens of thosuands of the idiots will remove themselves from the gene pool in rollovers.
Ford knows better, it's just being cynical. We have known for a generation that crush zones do a better job at protecting people.
The heavy metal beams are there to give the appearance of safety.
But it creates that appearance by substantially increasing risk to people in other vehicles. You can be in another large SUV, if you get t-boned that energy is going to get transfered into you.Of course, if you hit a more massive object, those beams work just as well at transfering the energy back at you. At first I thought people had gotten smarter than to buy into such nonsense. But I console myself with the thought that tens of thosuands of the idiots will remove themselves from the gene pool in rollovers.
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I just got a VW Passat TDI (diesel) and run it on biodiesel. You can "do right" by the environment by burning one of the cleanest fuels out there, and you can keep every dime you put in the tank of your car in your own country by supporting local farmers. They're great cars and last forever.
VW makes a Golf, Jetta, Beetle, and Tourag also in a TDI, PM me if you want to know more, I'm a wealth of info on this subject.
VW makes a Golf, Jetta, Beetle, and Tourag also in a TDI, PM me if you want to know more, I'm a wealth of info on this subject.
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
The odds of dying in a crash are much greater in a behemoth SUV than in a smaller vehicle. It’s a fact.
-murray
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I drive a '98 Ford Windstar and I like it because I can fit my road bike in the back without folding a seat down or anything. All I have to do is take off the front wheel and turn the handlebar 90 degrees right. I also keep some tools, spare tubes, helmet and gloves back there pretty much all the time. For my next vehicle I plan on looking at minivans again, or possibly a quad cab pickup with a cover over the truck bed. I keep my bike in the car maybe 90% of the time (my normal training ride loop starts at my office parking lot) and I like the security and weather protection of actually keeping it inside the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by 62vette
Get a big &ss SUV and burn up as much fossil fuel as possible to make up for all the good you are doing for yourself and the environment by riding
Then use it to drop your kids off at school, and contribute to the traffic mayhem
Either that or buy a Toyota Prius, make your kids walk or take a bus to school and become a vegan...
Seriously though, I have one of those bike racks that you can attach to the hatch or boot/trunk lid without needing a trailer hitch. You can use it on anything, probably even a big &ss SUV, definitely on a Prius.
Then use it to drop your kids off at school, and contribute to the traffic mayhem
Either that or buy a Toyota Prius, make your kids walk or take a bus to school and become a vegan...
Seriously though, I have one of those bike racks that you can attach to the hatch or boot/trunk lid without needing a trailer hitch. You can use it on anything, probably even a big &ss SUV, definitely on a Prius.
Al
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I have a subaru baja. i am able to put 4 bikes in the bed and i haven't seen a chage in gas mileage. four people fit comfortably and rides smoothly. i use to have a roof rack and traveled to california from st. louis. my tank of gas didn't last as long with the wind catchers. find a car that will it your bikes behind the actual vehicle.
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i have a 1972 dodge neon carbon fiber and ultralite wheels get 80 miles to d gallon and i just let down the top and pedal when i want to ride.
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Get a Saab
A 9-3 or 900 hatchback have mucho room for anything. A 9-5 sportwagon has even more room. And Turbo Saabs love to go fast . Very very fast. And they get 30+ MPG!
I have a 900 Convertable, unlimited cargo space when the roof is down
A 9-3 or 900 hatchback have mucho room for anything. A 9-5 sportwagon has even more room. And Turbo Saabs love to go fast . Very very fast. And they get 30+ MPG!
I have a 900 Convertable, unlimited cargo space when the roof is down
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I have two cars. An Acura RSX that gets 32 mpg that I drive all the time. I also have a 94 Ford Explorer that I can throw the bikes in the back. I only drive the Explorer occasionally so the gas mileage is not a factor. I bought both cars used. If you dont drive a lot the Explorer can work for you. If you are a high mileage person then you need a car with better economy. Frankly I dont understand anyone spending $30-$40K on a car. I dont see what you get for the money. I take the train to work into NYC and that frankly is the best environmentally sound way to travel.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
A 1972 Neon? Why do I smell sewer gas?
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
A 1972 Neon? Why do I smell sewer gas?
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