Garfield Cat

Maybe because Zipp sells advertising space on the Velo magazine? I don't know if they do. But if I were running a magazine, I would be careful as to first ask permission from Zipp before I turn "Consumer Reports" on them.

Rob probably already knew the PSIMET carbon wheels would do fine.

roadwarrior

I don't think anyone was saying they are a myth. From my perspective, what you get from the newer stuff really is lost on the majority in this forum. Go for weight and rotation...that's how most race anyway.

Psimet2001 

I had a racer earn a National track title last year on my wheels. I have had National podiums left and right. I think some might be reading into the numbers a little too much....

Thanks for the thread. I was hoping someone would see it. That's what I have been spending 6 months clearing out my queue for. Last 2 weeks all new inquiries responded to within the week and over 50% within 24 hrs. Lead time is 2-4 weeks currently. Exactly where I wanted to be by the time the article hit - also why I am full time wheels now.

For a little background...I was asked to build a traditional crit set of wheels that couldn't come in over $1k. When I told them the price (under $1k) they refused to believe it....so they listed them as $1k in the article. Now I charge $1k.

The set could have been lighter.

Something also to mention - I most likely had a higher spoke count than any other wheel in that test. Spoke count draws back on aero. Adds strength and stiffness. The vast majority of wheels in that test had import hubs. Hubs that I can and others offer on their sets. Only mine are even $200-$300 cheaper. No one other than ENVE had a decent quality hub on their wheel.

.....I wish they would have tested stiffness.

As for the subjective testing - I call BS on the braking...it was subjective though.

Bigger rims are coming down the road in open molds. Just a matter of time before I decide to start using them.

It was a nice opportunity to be in Velo. I built that set last year in December. I hope I get them back so that we can use them in races. Thanks for noticing!


EDIT:...oh...and from the beginning I have been an ENVE dealer. If someone wants a stand alone good aero set - that's what the premium ENVE product is for. That's why I offer them. They come with the ENVE price as well. I know my market....

roadwarrior

Llol...I saw it because it was on the page where they stuck the subscription card. I always rip those out and was going to start reading the magazine when I flipped it open and saw Psimet there...so double for you because its probably one of the first places people will end up.

Shimagnolo

What is an "open mold"?

Psimet2001 

AN Open Mold is a mold that you can buy units off of without having to own the mold. These are molds that are owned by the actual facility/company molding the product. They will produce off of those mold to anyone who sends them a PO and pays their bills.

Also - people like me can open their own mold. In other words pay to have the mold cut to their specification. This is what I have done for cyclocross this year. You then have the option of allowing that mold to become an open mold. If you do that then the initial mold costs are less and your per unit off of that mold is much lower as well.

Many companies use Open Mold rims, frames, bars, stems, etc. Imagine my surprise when I was gluing a Hed wheel for a team I sponsor and I saw a serial number from a factory I do business with....then realized it was one of the same rims I used 1st gen.

Biscayne05

eric01

Whoah hang on. Are we reading the same review? Psimet scored 62/100. Bontrager 81/100. Very nice that a small company is reviewed. Totally agree. Even cooler that its in the same conversation as the "big boys". Psimet still came in last.

What it does show is diminishing returns. You want that extra little advantage? You're going to have to pay a lot more to get a little back. This should not be a shocker to anyone. Like most consumer goods, you'll have to pay more and more to get those incremental benefits.

roadwarrior

The last paragraph I agree with. Further, if you look at the breakdowns on the scores, it really tells the average guy to look deeper into what a wheel is designed to do. So, Psimet gives up aero (in this test), but the guys racing for and hour or so really don't need that. If you look at the comparisons, he beat bigger companies in areas like weight (and he says he could have made them lighter) and rotational inertia. That would be my crit wheel, or if I was racing track a sprint wheel. I need the wheel to get going with less effort from me.

Theres a lot more to this than buying what looks best on the bike. Psimet is really going for the rider looking for specific things, at least to me. That's good.

Look, I know a lot of people at zipp. When they started they were building whels for racing. Now they build wheels that can be ridden every day. That's good and has increased their sales.

DropDeadFred

soooo...do WE have to pay 1000 now because Velo screwed things up for us?

echotraveler

I wanna read this article!!!!!! Damn it!!! Somone take a REALLY HI DEF picture and post it!

Psimet2001 

I highly advocate that you go out and pay for a newsstand copy.....

......but if "desperate"......I "MIGHT" have some of the text in electronic form.....maybe.....

Psimet2001 

For the record we just scored another set of National Championships. TT and Crit under rider Joe Berenyi - Para Cycling. He will be representing the US in London.

He also got 3rd in the National Road Race.

Text I just received from him:
"You going to the track tonight?"
Me:"Yup. You?"
Joe:"Yup."

Joe:"Another national championship on PSIMET wheels."

KoNP

so what is the current width of your wheels and what will they be when the newer mold is open to everyone?

roadwarrior

Nice job.

M_Wales

So does that mean you'll have wheels riding in the upcoming Olympic games in London?

island rider

Rob -

On another thread I guessed that the fact that you did not respond to requests for quotes meant that you had effectively decided that you had all the business you could handle. I noted that I did not take it personally, and was not really bothered by it, but that it did cause me to go elsewhere for wheels.

That said, I think the article made your product look like a great alternative to pricier models (although they did mention several times that "your" wheels were available elsewhere, which seemed odd to me, and would bug me if I were you, after all, I didn't see them say that generic versions of Enve wheels were available from overseas internet retailers) and you should be quite happy about it.

I hope that you see an increase in your sales from this and I hope that you are able to deal with the inevitable increase in inquiries. This is one of those make or break things I would bet. The last thing you want is for someone to write a letter to Velo saying "gee thanks for your information on PSIMET wheels, but next time pick someone from whom I can actually buy."

Seriously, congrats, and good luck.


P.S. If I reach out for wheels, can I get the BF grandfathered <$1000 price?

DropDeadFred

i asked this...it was ignored lol

island rider

I know, that's where I got the idea!

bonz50

great to hear Rob!!!!!! can't wait til I have some coin to send your way!! but I'll drive down and pick 'em up since your only about 45 mins away.

mmmdonuts

Will the PSIMET wheels with the rotational inertia cancellators cost extra?

for the recognition!

Stratman351

I'm happy for him, but disappointed that it appears to be almost impossible to buy a wheelset from him. I tried - believe me I tried - to buy a set last fall. It took me multiple emails prodding him to reply, but when he finally did, I was really impressed with his recommendations for building a custom set to suit my riding style. He said he was 8 weeks out on deliveries, which was fine with me, since I was really looking to have the wheels for this year, and told me to give him the email I used with PayPal and he'd contact me when he was ready to build. I never heard from him again. I'm getting ready now to buy a set from Williams, though I really would have preferred the set Rob recommended....

LowCel 

Closing thread to clean up.

LowCel 

Thread cleaned up and re-opened. If anyone has any problem with the way the tests were done or the article take it up with the magazine.

Bob Dopolina 

Sure. Want to buy 30 sets? That's the minimum order quantity (if they'll even respond to your email and if they'll accept your order).

Send me a PM and I'll issue the invoice.