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Old 07-05-13, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RJM
I spent some time in New Orleans drinking, boozing, hanging...sweating my ass off because it was so hot. I didn't lose one pound, in fact I gained some. I think the Op's metric is a little off.
You didn't say anything about women. At the risk of incensing the 41 code of indignation which can be haphazard at best, I will proffer that excessive dalliance with women of unknown origin will lighten your wallet. Sweating is optional
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Originally Posted by kenji666
Quick, someone close this thread before someone mentions Lance... uh-oh, too late.
It would be a fitting end. Speaking of LA, I did like what he said on the eve of le tour. And, I agree with him btw. Yes, a man of despicable character but one that did compete on a level playing field with all the other cheaters aka pro peloton. Who can you name as replacement winners in the Lance era that didn't cheat? The reason why they haven't is because it can't be done...all contenders did. The guys that were naïve enough to not cheat, had zero chance of winning. Whether the sport is clean now is whole 'nother debate.

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Creating such a thread is worth it for the pure entertainment of watching posters like yourself come forward...and embarrass themselves...which of course is a false premise because you aren't smart enough to have any shame. Instead of setting the record straight with your prevailing wisdom, you do the only thing you are good at. Troll.
I would place my bets on RUOkies intelligence being superior any day. And BTW, he is, in fact, quite right.
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I would place my bets on RUOkies intelligence being superior any day. And BTW, he is, in fact, quite right.
You may now bring my car around after washing it. Be sure to wipe the extra tire dressing off as this tends to fling on the undercarriage. You tend to forget this.
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You may now bring my car around after washing it. Be sure to wipe the extra tire dressing off as this tends to fling on the undercarriage. You tend to forget this.
wut
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
wut
no excuses. Also, check the oil.
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Fat folks often erroneously equate sweating with increased weight loss and exertion. But I've seen many dripping wet just reaching for the Cheetos, so....
And while we are at it, its the increased metabolism, reduced perceived hunger (not to mention idle time) along with the changes in how the body handles ingested calories in active/fit folks which leads to weight loss. Do the math on how long it would take to burn just one Big Mac and a Pepsi, and you'll see there aren't enough open treadmills at the gym to make that work no matter how much plastic you wrap yourself in....
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Burning calories and fat by muscles requires oxygen, which requires higher HR.
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Ha ha - should I be surprised that the guy that thinks there's a direct correlation between sweating and burning significant calories is also foolish enough to insult the knowledge and intelligence of not one but TWO MDs in his crappy thread?
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Ha ha - should I be surprised that the guy that thinks there's a direct correlation between sweating and burning significant calories is also foolish enough to insult the knowledge and intelligence of not one but TWO MDs in his crappy thread?
He's on my blocked list, but the quotes are entertaining enough! I'd assume he was a troll if he didn't seem so serious, and hadn't been at it so long.
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Classic 41... 9 pages devoted to a little post-hoc ergo propter hoc action
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Make sure to drink plenty of sweaty beers, that'll melt all the pounds off
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ha ha - should I be surprised that the guy that thinks there's a direct correlation between sweating and burning significant calories is also foolish enough to insult the knowledge and intelligence of not one but TWO MDs in his crappy thread?
Who happen to be both trolling...which btw hotspot, is 'all' you do. Btw, I don't mind your sense of humor...at least you have one which is appreciated, but your posts are tired and lame. Bonafide MD's should come forward with substantive reasons why my assertion is false. Instead they troll and hence my response.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
He's on my blocked list, but the quotes are entertaining enough! I'd assume he was a troll if he didn't seem so serious, and hadn't been at it so long.
Since I'm blocked, all you do is troll as well. No substantive rebuttal because you haven't a clue.
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Sweating? Are you serious?

Unfortunately I have found that exercise is not enough without reducing calorie intake, but calorie intake is enough without exercise (but better with exercise of course). Changing eating habits is the only way and there are plenty of ways to achieve this and not all will work for all people.


But seriously...sweat? What a plonker.
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Originally Posted by kenji666
Burning calories and fat by muscles requires oxygen, which requires higher HR.
Because my diet hasn't changed much, and really my riding distance hasn't increased in the last month, having dropped more weight recently, I believe you may have identified the root cause...improvement in fitness aka ability to ride faster ties into heart rate or even stroke volume of the heart. I am riding faster with less effort without a doubt.
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Good for you! /thread
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Originally Posted by coasting
Sweating? Are you serious?

Unfortunately I have found that exercise is not enough without reducing calorie intake, but calorie intake is enough without exercise (but better with exercise of course). Changing eating habits is the only way and there are plenty of ways to achieve this and not all will work for all people.


But seriously...sweat? What a plonker.
Insults on the 41 seem to be at a fever pitch. Plonker? Dude, you started the thread about moving your saddle a cm. Project much?...lol.
Also, you are wrong in what you wrote. Double Plonker? Ratio of diet to exercise is well known in terms of calorie balance. I said I didn't change my diet.
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Good for you! /thread
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People lose weight more in the summer because when it is hot we eat less.
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Originally Posted by wheelreason
Fat folks often erroneously equate sweating with increased weight loss and exertion. But I've seen many dripping wet just reaching for the Cheetos, so....
And while we are at it, its the increased metabolism, reduced perceived hunger (not to mention idle time) along with the changes in how the body handles ingested calories in active/fit folks which leads to weight loss. Do the math on how long it would take to burn just one Big Mac and a Pepsi, and you'll see there aren't enough open treadmills at the gym to make that work no matter how much plastic you wrap yourself in....
The fat folks analogy which is comical is irrelevant in my case because I am not fat...not in the least. I don't eat big macs or soda or Cheetos. I also don't drink much alcohol. But the hunger problem of sickly people is real...begetting more calorie consumption including the wrong kind of foods as you point out. Maybe the MD's that have trolled in this thread could come and explain the relationship between insulin and hunger...lol.
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Originally Posted by coasting
People lose weight more in the summer because when it is hot we eat less.
You may. But my diet seriously has been pretty much unaltered. Yes I ride more in the summer. Same diet. Weight loss I am speaking of has been recent in the hot weather as I have been riding pretty steadily since April.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
You may. But my diet seriously has been pretty much unaltered. Yes I ride more in the summer. Same diet. Weight loss I am speaking of has been recent in the hot weather as I have been riding pretty steadily since April.
But you are not a fat person. Fat people over eat. So the summer heat effect on over eating is relevant for real weight loss in fat people and not you skinny sweating a bucket.
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Originally Posted by coasting
But you are not a fat person. Fat people over eat. So the summer heat effect on over eating is relevant for real weight loss in fat people and not you skinny sweating a bucket.
OK...its relevant for fat people then and maybe a position on the subject should be posted for fat guys reading this thread. It just isn't relevant to my recent weight loss.
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Dude thinks that he's losing weight by sweating canola oil, yet the people that don't take him seriously are trolls. #41ier
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