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Old 11-03-13, 05:05 PM
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True story of an arrogant ass

So, I was in the closing miles of ride this weekend, astride an old, steel framed Lemond Buenos Aires, a bike I now use as my winter/spring training steed. I hadn't ridden it in months.

I'd just cruised around a turn, and as I rose out of the saddle to jam back up to speed over a rough patch of pavement, I thought to myself, "Man, I feel sorry for anyone who hasn't experienced the magic ride of a good steel bike!"

Turned out was just getting a flat tire!

As I was on the side of the road pumping up, I couldn't help but feel like a big d**k, although it was kinda funny in light of all the frame material wars we have around here!

Anyway, my overdue shot of humility.
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it's often been said that PSI and tire size determine ride quality more than frame or fork material. i've found that to be true.
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I saw the thread title and at first assumed it was about BDop, but then realized it would have said arse, not ass.
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We have two arrogant posts on page one.

Excellent.
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Originally Posted by datlas
We have two arrogant posts on page one.

Excellent.
My real first thought was that it was a parody thread, but alas.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
My real first thought was that it was a parody thread, but alas.
Same here. Hope springs eternal, eh?
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However there is a good, fundamental truth that is hiding in here.

Tire width and PSI can affect how "hard" or "soft" a ride is more than frame material.
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Originally Posted by datlas
However there is a good, fundamental truth that is hiding in here.

Tire width and PSI can affect how "hard" or "soft" a ride is more than frame material.
That was hiding?!
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I went back to a CF frame after a few years on Al and for the first week I'd keep looking down expecting to see a flat tire.
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I should hasten to add that tire pressure and width does not obviate the benefits of a sweet riding frame, especially as rider effort and ability increase.

I mean, if you ride at 110psi, dropping to 60psi ain't gonna work, and probably dropping to 100psi won't either; can't have your junk all soft when it's time to lay it down, now can you?
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I'd like to see a pic of that Lemond.


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I'd like to see a pic of that Lemond.


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That's sharp!
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Originally Posted by Rowan
That's sharp!
Thank you, but it's when the 700x25s hit 30psi that the real magic happens!
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Originally Posted by caloso
I went back to a CF frame after a few years on Al and for the first week I'd keep looking down expecting to see a flat tire.
I've ridden CF frames like that too. I've also ridden CF frames that where teeth shattering. Material alone does not make a good riding bike. There a good and bad frames on the market made out of every material.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Thank you, but it's when the 700x25s hit 30psi that the real magic happens!
My friend has an old 26" triathlon Cannondale, complete with alu fork. I doubt even 20 psi would soften that!
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Where can I buy carbon fiber tires?
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Very nice.
I want some steel!
I'd like to get an Italian steel with full Campy, someday.
Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
it's often been said that PSI and tire size determine ride quality more than frame or fork material. i've found that to be true.
Although that's true, I can tell you 100% that my carbon and steel bikes unequivocally have better ride quality than my aluminum bike. I frequently swap the same powertap wheelset (with same tires and pressure) between bikes and the aluminum bike rides like a shopping cart compared to the steel and carbon bikes.

Yes, you can mask bad ride quality with fatter tires and lower pressure, but why would you want to when you can have an inherently better riding frame (and then add even more comfort if you desire through softer tires).
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I want a bike made from alu cf and steel so that any thoughts of comparison would be neutralized
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Originally Posted by clausen
I've ridden CF frames like that too. I've also ridden CF frames that where teeth shattering. Material alone does not make a good riding bike. There a good and bad frames on the market made out of every material.
True. My comment was really more about the Al frame I'd been riding: Cervelo Soloist. The stiffness made it an awesome crit bike, but it would really beat me up on any ride over 2hrs. 25mm Vittoria tubulars made a big difference, but still.
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