Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Hand position

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Hand position

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-09-14, 05:36 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,971

Bikes: Habanero Titanium Team Nuevo

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
Liked 185 Times in 121 Posts
Hand position

I ride in the drops or on the hoods, but never on the tops. I am the only person who does this? BTW I live in the flatlands so going up steep grades might make a difference.
deacon mark is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 05:40 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 2,668

Bikes: 2023 Canyon Aeoroad CF SL, 2015 Trek Emonda SLR, 2002 Litespeed Classic, 2005 Bianchi Pista, Some BikesDirect MTB I never ride.

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Liked 136 Times in 89 Posts
Can't answer your question re: "only" person who does this, but I ride on the tops on the flats when I want to just softpedal. Not so stretched out, more relaxing position. Also, I feel sorry for you, no hills...ugh where's the joy?
cthenn is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 05:50 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Jakedatc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts
Nope, I don't use the tops even when i'm sitting up cruising. I use my hoods to climb steep stuff so i can get the best leverage. cruising around i will back my hands up to where it curves near the tops once in a while.
Jakedatc is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 05:51 PM
  #4  
Coffin Dodger
 
Pirkaus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,138

Bikes: Motobecane Vent Noir, Lynskey R345, Serotta Nova Special X

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 794 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 143 Posts
I ride the tops climbing and relaxed pace on the flat for a change of position
Pirk
Pirkaus is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 06:39 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18883 Post(s)
Liked 10,646 Times in 6,054 Posts
Rarely use the tops, except going uphill or occasionally to move around on a long ride. When I'm in the city, I like being able to access the brakes as quickly as possible.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 06:43 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
1/2 tops, 1/2 hoods. Almost never drops. All flat. And BTW there is plenty of joy on the flats. I can't stand hills. I would rather headwind. All what you get used to. Go figure.
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 07:02 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Ghazmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: The banks of the River Charles
Posts: 2,029

Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease, 2020 Seven Evergreen, 2019 Honey Allroads Ti, 2018 Seven Redsky XX, 2017 Trek Boon 7, 2014 Trek 520

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 696 Post(s)
Liked 910 Times in 487 Posts
Drop, hoods or aero bars. When I replaced the bar grip I bunched it kind thick for added comfort. The grip ends at the curve to the top of my bars.
Ghazmh is online now  
Old 01-09-14, 10:16 PM
  #8  
Redefining Lazy
 
Slackerprince's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: North Metro, MN
Posts: 1,923

Bikes: 2013 Cannondale Synapse 5 105, 2013 Giant Escape 3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
1/2 tops, 1/2 hoods. Almost never drops. All flat. And BTW there is plenty of joy on the flats. I can't stand hills. I would rather headwind. All what you get used to. Go figure.
Are you in Florida?


S
Slackerprince is offline  
Old 01-09-14, 10:24 PM
  #9  
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Posts: 23,024
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
nothing wrong with the tops.
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 06:38 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by Slackerprince
Are you in Florida?


S
Nah, Houston, TX where, to paraphrase Archie Bell and the Drells, we bike most as good as we walk. Seriously, a good, long railroad overpass is the closest thing to a hill for about 50 miles. It can get pretty interesting on the way up to Austin, but that is nowhere near here.

Robert
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 07:25 AM
  #11  
Voice of the Industry
 
Campag4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,572
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1188 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by deacon mark
I ride in the drops or on the hoods, but never on the tops. I am the only person who does this? BTW I live in the flatlands so going up steep grades might make a difference.
I use all positions and as it turns out, bar position is really a compromise between all three...some positions maybe better than others for you.
For example I determine my saddle to handlebar drop by my body position in the hooks. This maybe more or less optimal for the hoods and/or tops.
Campag4life is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 08:33 AM
  #12  
Rubber side down
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,769

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 225 Times in 105 Posts
I ride the tops for climbing, sometimes just cruising, bumpy rough roads, and when I want a very aero TT position. For the latter I slide back on the saddle, bring the elbows in, grab the tops next to the stem and "dial it up to 400 watts"! For me, this is a really good aero position when just cranking it up on relatively flat roads. It's not unlike an aero tuck on a TT bike, just moved back and bunched up a bit.


Last edited by Clipped_in; 01-10-14 at 08:43 AM.
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 09:48 AM
  #13  
Mr. Dopolina
 
Bob Dopolina's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 10,217

Bikes: KUUPAS, Simpson VR

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 149 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 41 Posts
I ride mostly on the tops, then the hoods with elbows dropped and pushed in with a flat back for extended speedy bits. The drops are for uber fast aggressive stuff.

Seated climbing is the tops. Climbing out of the saddle is for the hoods.

Winning solo is hands in the air blowing kisses (in case you were wondering).
__________________
BDop Cycling Company Ltd.: bdopcycling.com, facebook, instagram



Bob Dopolina is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:04 AM
  #14  
Rubber side down
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,769

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 225 Times in 105 Posts
Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Winning solo is hands in the air blowing kisses (in case you were wondering).
I have'nt used that position too much...
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:19 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Looigi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 12 Posts
How high and what's the reach to your bars? If they're high and close, the tops may not be that appropriate. If they're low and forward then the tops may become more useful. A typical performance oriented setup has the bars low and forward to lower the torso and decrease drag when on the hoods and even more so in the drops.
Looigi is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:52 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 616

Bikes: Opus Vivace F1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
If I'm riding in the tops it means either I'm really puffing and looking for a rest, or my back is looking for a change of position on a long ride. Both happen fairly often.
dmcdam is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:58 AM
  #17  
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Posts: 23,024
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
i m on tops more than half the time.
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 02:16 PM
  #18  
Voice of the Industry
 
Campag4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,572
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1188 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
I ride mostly on the tops, then the hoods with elbows dropped and pushed in with a flat back for extended speedy bits. The drops are for uber fast aggressive stuff.

Seated climbing is the tops. Climbing out of the saddle is for the hoods.

Winning solo is hands in the air blowing kisses (in case you were wondering).
Your post as an experienced cyclist really underscores how we are different. I too have been riding a long time. Because our priorities are different...you only use your drops for extreme efforts and I ride in the drops 50% of time when cruising or hammering on the flats, we likely set up handlebar much different. No doubt mine is higher to make the drops more usable.
So OP the point is, you have to go with your preferences at the end of the day. On common link between Bob and I is we both like to cruise on the tops with elbows in...including fast flat riding. But....I no doubt use the hoods and drops a lot more based upon what Bob wrote. YMMV is the point.
Campag4life is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:12 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
TexMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,602

Bikes: Ridley Noah fast, Colnago CLX,Giant Propel Advanced, Pinnerello Gogma 65.1, Specialized S-works Venge, CAADX,Cervelo S3

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Nah, Houston, TX where, to paraphrase Archie Bell and the Drells, we bike most as good as we walk. Seriously, a good, long railroad overpass is the closest thing to a hill for about 50 miles. It can get pretty interesting on the way up to Austin, but that is nowhere near here.

Robert
Me too Houston, tx but the wind sometimes is brutal like climbing.
TexMac is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:13 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
TexMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,602

Bikes: Ridley Noah fast, Colnago CLX,Giant Propel Advanced, Pinnerello Gogma 65.1, Specialized S-works Venge, CAADX,Cervelo S3

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in
I ride the tops for climbing, sometimes just cruising, bumpy rough roads, and when I want a very aero TT position. For the latter I slide back on the saddle, bring the elbows in, grab the tops next to the stem and "dial it up to 400 watts"! For me, this is a really good aero position when just cranking it up on relatively flat roads. It's not unlike an aero tuck on a TT bike, just moved back and bunched up a bit.

I"m trying to learn how to place my hands on my road bikes handlebar like e TT bike and always get afraid of crashing.
TexMac is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:37 PM
  #21  
Voice of the Industry
 
Campag4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,572
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1188 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by TexMac
I"m trying to learn how to place my hands on my road bikes handlebar like e TT bike and always get afraid of crashing.
Key there is to set your bar height to agree with your flexibility. If you watch pros, they literally melt to the handlebar in that position. There isn't any tension and its a pretty secure position. If you lack flexibility and your bar is placed too low, this will be an awkward if not unsafe position.
Lack of flexibility creates too much tension if trying to ride in too low a position which affects not only power production but unsafe steering.
If you want to confirm this, raise your handlebar with a riser stem and then try the TT position.
Hope this makes sense.
Campag4life is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:42 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by TexMac
Me too Houston, tx but the wind sometimes is brutal like climbing.
That's true, but you never have to worry about stopping on an upgrade and not being able to get started again before you fall over due to the slope. Heck, who am I kidding? I don't like the wind either!
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:59 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
TexMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,602

Bikes: Ridley Noah fast, Colnago CLX,Giant Propel Advanced, Pinnerello Gogma 65.1, Specialized S-works Venge, CAADX,Cervelo S3

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Campag4life
Key there is to set your bar height to agree with your flexibility. If you watch pros, they literally melt to the handlebar in that position. There isn't any tension and its a pretty secure position. If you lack flexibility and your bar is placed too low, this will be an awkward if not unsafe position.
Lack of flexibility creates too much tension if trying to ride in too low a position which affects not only power production but unsafe steering.
If you want to confirm this, raise your handlebar with a riser stem and then try the TT position.
Hope this makes sense.
Makes a lot of sense.
My handle bar is low so thats an issue.
The other day I was at our gym and was on an ergonomic bike, found myself enjoying my hands on TT position so much that i ended up cycling for 2 hours till i was getting dizzy.
TexMac is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jackb
General Cycling Discussion
33
11-26-18 01:16 PM
sabado225
Road Cycling
81
09-19-17 11:43 AM
SammyJ
Fifty Plus (50+)
36
04-02-16 12:49 AM
dougphoto
Road Cycling
13
02-22-16 06:41 AM
Dheorl
Road Cycling
56
04-18-10 04:15 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.