thirdgenbird

How about this:

cassette 6800
chain 6800
crankset 6800
bb 6800
shifters athena
derailleurs athena
brakes athena

Functionally, it should be perfect. Chain profiles match the cassette and rings and cable pull matches the derailleurs. It's already reported that cassette and chain ring spacing is near identical.

you also get rid of the complaints about each group. 6800/9000 cables (expensive) are wearing out fast and PT always sparks a debate.

you get readily available shimano consumables.

i haven't added it up, but I wouldn't be surprised if this mix is cheaper than either group. Campagnolo shifters are traditionally cheaper, and the 6800 chain and cassette should drop the price of Athena.

if you are looking to round the whole thing out, get 6800 pedals and fulcrum wheels.

im a campy guy through and through, but I would strongly consider this.

Campag4life

Yeah but...yeah but ....people are still going to point and giggle about that Ultegra crank. Sorry to Ultegra crank owners...they work nicely but man that is some serious acid the designer dropped when growing up.
Instead, if the frameset is BB30 or some type of integrated BB, get the crankset that is made for that frame...not a Shimano crank that has to be converted. Btw, Campy has a new OverTorque crank for BB/PF30 bikes worth a look but they are expensive.
I like your other choices.

embankmentlb

If Campy only offered one product and it was a 4lb block of aluminum with Campagnolo stamped in the center, there would still be that guy who says its better than anything Shimano ever produced.

Campag4life

I think what you wrote is perhaps the biggest fallacy about Campy on the web and is the undercurrent of why many don't like Campy because they believe there is a blind allegiance. The reality is Campagnolo is the 100 year old incumbent groupset maker. They are the Mac Daddy...not Shimano or upstart Sram who is learning at an amazing rate. It may take awhile but people eventually recognize value. Forget exclusivity. You will see this with Ultegra 6800. Ultegra 6800 will be the most popular groupset sold on mid range road bikes because it is so good and FWIW Ultegra 6700 wasn't.

BoSoxYacht

When 9000 was released I thought the same thing, but now I like the look of the 6800 crankset.

Honestly, I still think the 11spd Campagnolo shifters are hideous.

Campag4life

They may be hideous to your eye but there is no mistaking that they are the gold standard when it comes to ergonomics which is why both Shimano and Sram effectively copied their shape and size on their latest offerings.

Campag4life

I actually can accept the latest DA crank but since most bikes are either BB30 or PF30, I wouldn' consider a Shimano crank.

thirdgenbird

7900/7600 cranksets were so ugly I've learned to accept the 9000/6800 cranksets as reasonable.

if I were building a press fit frame of any type I would also look at native options.

And if sram only offered a 2lb block of cheese with "sweet graphics" people would still buy it because it was lighter. Don't worry about durability, they have a "great warranty".

in all seriousness, i am shocked at how expensive sram has gotten. Force shifters cost more than dura ace or super record. Red shift levers cost more than super record and 105 levers combined. Red brake calipers cost more than super record... These comparisons came off the same US website too. No funny business.

6800 sounds so good sram may have to adjust their markups, which based off production costs, must be very high.

BoSoxYacht

Post of the day.

rpenmanparker 

Pas de tout! It is just that I accept posters' comments at face value. If I want some support for someone's opinions, I may engage the poster in a deeper discussion in hope of learning how he comes by them. I thought the suggestion that only someone with the specific greater than 100 miles experience could validly offer an opinion was insulting. There are lots of ways to gain knowledge. Some first hand, some second hand direct or indirect. For example I have installed Chorus and Ultegra 6800 for friends and test ridden them short distances to validate the installations. If that doesn't qualify me to discuss the topic, oh well, y'all's loss, not mine. I just don't appreciate having to pass an entrance exam to participate in a discussion.

halfspeed

Oh stop. Being asked to qualify a claim isn't persecution.

garciawork

I agree about the 6800/9000 cranks, after 6700... anything is an improvement looks wise, even if I think Campy or 6600 look way better.

The block of cheese quote had me laughing so hard my wife yelled at me... thank you for that. As a bike shop employee once told me, people buy SRAM because they just give away new gear so you can be as rough as you want because they know it will break no matter what.

My honest opinion is that Campy is the most comfortable shifter my hands have touched, but I am caring less and less about the shift quality as it seems to me that we will all be riding mostly electronic bikes in 5-10 years... so ergonomics and brakes matter most to me.

thirdgenbird

Glad I could bring some humor to the conversation.

i still stand by my mixed group. Athena if you must match.

Long Tom

Life as I know it would be way worse without my 6800 11-32 cassette on my compact. That's all I have to offer.

catonec 

Ive never ordered from this site but I learned about it here. check out the prices

https://bikepart-store.com/products/2...ed-Group-.html

https://bikepart-store.com/products/2...-Groupset.html

BoSoxYacht

Wow.

Who here has made any purchases from them?

rpenmanparker 

It has never mattered what the speaker meant, but rather what the listener heard. Negotiating and People Influencing Skills 101. And you didn't ask for a claim to be qualified. It was an opinion, so you were asking for the person offering it to be qualified. Big difference.

LesterOfPuppets

I'm too scared to buy from Indonesia.

Nebby10

1) It's in Indonesia
2) Asks for bank deposit as payment

There's only one conclusion to draw from this...

Where did you learn about it here? It's clearly a scam site...

sced

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/to...ore-in-lampung

halfspeed

As the philosopher Montgomery Scott once said "a difference that makes no difference is no difference."

rpenmanparker 

How do we determine if they are legit? Maybe BDop knows about them being in the Asia Pacific region.

BoSoxYacht

A simple google search proves they are a scam.

8086bruce

Damn!^^^

MagicHour

You can get everything but brakeset at Nashbar for about $600 shipped with code next 2 days...and it will actually be delivered to you