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Old 08-14-14, 01:12 PM
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I agree anyone who rides a bicycle should have the tools an knowledge to change a flat on the road.

Despite having expensive flat resistant tires, I still being two tubes, a patch kit and 4 CO2 cartridges with me on every ride.
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Originally Posted by nuke_diver
Why would you shave your arms?

On the pump I'd rather get home than look cool..but then I don't wear a kit either just a tshirt and shorts. I have a mini morph which works very well. I don't have trouble getting it to pressures good enough to ride a normal ride on after a flat. It takes me about 50-70 pumps to get the tire to feel the same as the other one which was pumped up to 110psi before the ride (I am not saying that the pump gets to 110psi I am saying it feels the same when I push on it). It has a hose and a little foot pedal that flips out so you can get more leverage. I just got a WB mount for the road morph which works for the mini morph even if it doesn't say so specifically but I had to order that from Todson since my LBS didnt have one.
Where did you end up sourcing that mount? It's my one problem with the MiniMorph, having the zip-tie mount instead of an offset WB mount. And I've jersey-pocketed it with my other bikes a couple of times, and it's just too long to sit in there comfortably.

For a while, I had a crappy mini-pump that came with one of my bikes. Then back in March I saw a guy at the side of the road stopped with his 2nd flat of the day, and no more CO2. He was getting set to make the call of shame, but I talked him out of it because I had a pump and that could get him into town to a bike shop. But as we tried to pump his tire up, my pump fell apart in his hands.

I then flagged down another cyclist who had a MTB pump, and had him up to (what felt like) 60psi in about 5 strokes.

After that day, I bought myself the Mini Morph, which has remained attached to my frame almost permanently since. I got my first chance to try it a couple weekends ago when a ride buddy had a flat.

The moral of this story is I really like Continental tires and I give them a lot of credit for how little I use my Mini Morph.
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Originally Posted by Leinster
Where did you end up sourcing that mount? It's my one problem with the MiniMorph, having the zip-tie mount instead of an offset WB mount. And I've jersey-pocketed it with my other bikes a couple of times, and it's just too long to sit in there comfortably.

For a while, I had a crappy mini-pump that came with one of my bikes. Then back in March I saw a guy at the side of the road stopped with his 2nd flat of the day, and no more CO2. He was getting set to make the call of shame, but I talked him out of it because I had a pump and that could get him into town to a bike shop. But as we tried to pump his tire up, my pump fell apart in his hands.

I then flagged down another cyclist who had a MTB pump, and had him up to (what felt like) 60psi in about 5 strokes.

After that day, I bought myself the Mini Morph, which has remained attached to my frame almost permanently since. I got my first chance to try it a couple weekends ago when a ride buddy had a flat.

The moral of this story is I really like Continental tires and I give them a lot of credit for how little I use my Mini Morph.
I got it here WB Bracket for Road Morph, Peak DX, MT Rocket, Harpoon, Mini ? Todson.

The shipping was kind of a lot given the price but it fit well and hold the mini morph pretty solidly. I've done a couple of 40+ mile rides since I got it with no slippage or other issues and had to use it once as well. It doesn't say that it works for the mini morph but the road and mini are the same diameter. I have a mini morph on both bikes since they have different valves. It's saved several rides. The Mini morph gets you to about 60-80 psi (I guess) in about 50-70 strokes...not that bad...I find getting the tires on and off more work than the pumping.
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That is a bit excessive for shipping. 2 of my LBS's are on their list, so I'll check with them first. The Zip-Tie bracket isn't the worst, and I can live with it for now.
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Originally Posted by Panza
Hi guys, I'm getting tired of buying more CO2 carts for my saddle sack. I have a portable bike frame pump, would it look silly on my Bianchi Infinito?

I carry a blackburn 7 inch pump that i have let strangers use to pump their flats
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Why settle for a frame pump when you can just carry a full sized floor pump?
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My Dahon has a pump integrated into the seatpost, which is pretty slick:

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Originally Posted by RPK79




Why settle for a frame pump when you can just carry a full sized floor pump?
Ultimate hipster is to go brakeless, but carry a floor pump.
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Originally Posted by dnslater
Ultimate hipster is to go brakeless, but carry a floor pump.
Brakes only slow you down, man.
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Originally Posted by RPK79
Brakes only slow you down, man.
Rainbow Stripes T-shirt identified to add speed. Lack of bottle cages further exemplify light weight bike.
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Originally Posted by Panza
Rainbow Stripes T-shirt identified to add speed. Lack of bottle cages further exemplify light weight bike.
Snowboard helmet over deerstalker hat, on a rolled-up-sleeves-and-shorts day.

Clearly he has the floor pump in there not to fix punctures on the way, but because he's moving apartment to the other, now much cooler, side of Williamsburg.
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Originally Posted by Leinster
Snowboard helmet over deerstalker hat, on a rolled-up-sleeves-and-shorts day.

Clearly he has the floor pump in there not to fix punctures on the way, but because he's moving apartment to the other, now much cooler, side of Williamsburg.
No visible tattoos, though, that's throwing me off... and the beard/mustache thing is too neatly trimmed, and the glasses not stylish (nor retro). And do you see how everything on the bike matches? I dunno, but I'm thinking this fool is a narc.
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Originally Posted by busygizmo

On my old steel bike I have a full length frame pump that sits under the tob tube. When I bought it the LBS told me to avoid the Silica and go with a Zefal HP. Back in those days I rode a lot more so flats were more common, the Zefal worked great.
Yep, me too; Zefal HpX frame fit on my turn-of-the-millenium era LeMond:



Frame fits just look right on so many decades worth of road bikes...
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Originally Posted by Panza
How can you tell what PSI your tires are? When I'm out and about I just try to inflate the tire as best I can and then I deflate/reinflate when I get home with a regular pump because CO2 leaks out faster than regular air.

Mostly by feel now. When I pump my tires at home I always press down a certain way to see what different pressures feel like w/ that tire/tube combo..
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Originally Posted by Panza
I think that if you get a flat, you should abandon your serious training goals of the day and aim to just make it home without walking.
Nope! I carry one spare tube and a patch kit. The other week I flatted at mile 80 of a 150 mile ride. 70 miles home was the "fastest" route.
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Originally Posted by danmc
Those mini-pumps that look really cool don't seem to do much. You'll spend 20 minutes pumping away to only get it up to a barely rideable level. The Road Morph G seems to be able to get the tire up to riding speed with minimal effort.

I also carry a CO2 dispenser but rarely use it because I ride Gatorskins which rarely flat (of course this post guarantees that I'll flat within the next week.)

Yup, 85-90 psi is "barely rideable" for a 150 lb rider. You're experience is probably not the same as everyone else. I could get started on my opinion of gatorskins, but I won't.
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Originally Posted by Jed19
OP, I have a Topeak Race Rocket mounted unobtrusively under the water bottle cage on my road bike (use to have a Road Morph, but just too huge). I carry two CO2 cartridges and a Genuine Innovations AirChuck inflator (like that it is small and all-metal). My process on flats is to use the pump to shape the tube and inflate to about 30psi, then top off with the CO2. The pump is also a kind of backup in case I run out of CO2 due to some malfunction.
I do this also. I have found that I can get the smaller cartridges used for bb guns for like 50 cents, which work fine for topping off the tire.
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Originally Posted by danmc
Those mini-pumps that look really cool don't seem to do much. You'll spend 20 minutes pumping away to only get it up to a barely rideable level...I also carry a CO2 dispenser but rarely use it ...

About inflation speed: are you finding the CO2 method is fast? I am carrying them this year so that I don't have to carry a pump on my regular rides, but never have used one.

I'll have to disagree on the the generalization of mini-pumps though. My mini-morph, with L handle and hose, will get a 1 1/8 in (32 mm) 27 in tire up to 95 w/o undue effort or time. 60-something strokes if I remember correctly, about 1 per second. That is a long time compared to a floor pump, but for occasional and reliable use very satisfactory, especially in 40 deg weather or below. I used mine just yesterday to see that it still works, to top off my 25 (measured 27) mm at 80 / 90 quickly.

At 160 lbs that's a pretty firm ride for me. You are at 180, what width tires and pressure are you running?
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Good Morning Everyone!

Have you ever had an experience where both your tires went flat in the same trip?

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Originally Posted by road ryder
Have you ever had an experience where both your tires went flat in the same trip?
Practically anyone who's ridden long enough has had this happen. BTW, you can have the same tire go flat multiple times on one ride too.

Originally Posted by Panza
[COLOR=#1E1E1E]Rule #30// No frame-mounted pumps.
This is outdated. A decent pump like a Lezyne weighs the same as a CO2 inflator and a couple carts, and you can fill the tire in a couple minutes. No need to run out of air. The main reason to go CO2 in my mind is if you want everything to fit in your seat wedge and you're content with one spare tube.
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Originally Posted by RoadTire
About inflation speed: are you finding the CO2 method is fast? I am carrying them this year so that I don't have to carry a pump on my regular rides, but never have used one.

I'll have to disagree on the the generalization of mini-pumps though. My mini-morph, with L handle and hose, will get a 1 1/8 in (32 mm) 27 in tire up to 95 w/o undue effort or time. 60-something strokes if I remember correctly, about 1 per second. That is a long time compared to a floor pump, but for occasional and reliable use very satisfactory, especially in 40 deg weather or below. I used mine just yesterday to see that it still works, to top off my 25 (measured 27) mm at 80 / 90 quickly.

At 160 lbs that's a pretty firm ride for me. You are at 180, what width tires and pressure are you running?
A 12gm CO2 cartridge will dump about 90psi into a 23c tire almost instantaneously, so yeah, it's fast. It's so fast, that one needs to take care to ensure the is properly seated and the tube not pinched or anything; I've seen someone blow the tube to shreds through an unseated section of the bead. Frickin' loud and startling!

I believe some CO2 dispensers have adjustable valves to control flow rate, though, so you can ease the gas in and make sure all's well before going full force.

I've never used CO2 myself, and just can't get over feeling uneasy about the wastefulness of them. I mean, all the energy it takes to get metal suitable for machining into the canisters, then generating and filling with CO2, packaging, shipping, disposal of the empties...the whole thing seems excessively indulgent in light of the fact that pumping atmosphere costs virtually nothing and generates almost no waste over the lifespan of a pump.

I've been out on the road, suffering numb fingers and toes while fixing a flat in the snow, thinking it would be nice to save a minute or two, but then I realize, it's just a minute or two, and I get to ride on free of guilt. I'm not saying everyone should feel guilty, only that they should realize and acknowledge the costs and tradeoffs between CO2 and hand pumps.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
The main reason to go CO2 in my mind is if you want everything to fit in your seat wedge and you're content with one spare tube.
Uh, but one can get a seat pack that accommodates a mini-pump, and some have straps on the underside, too.

The main reason to go CO2 in my mind is physical disability that prohibits effective pump operation, or racing, where time literally counts. Actually, getting your a** eaten by deer flies while sweat pours into your eyes (BTDT) is a pretty compelling scenario to use CO2 in favor of taking the time to pump, too!
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Originally Posted by RoadTire
About inflation speed: are you finding the CO2 method is fast? I am carrying them this year so that I don't have to carry a pump on my regular rides, but never have used one.

I'll have to disagree on the the generalization of mini-pumps though. My mini-morph, with L handle and hose, will get a 1 1/8 in (32 mm) 27 in tire up to 95 w/o undue effort or time. 60-something strokes if I remember correctly, about 1 per second. That is a long time compared to a floor pump, but for occasional and reliable use very satisfactory, especially in 40 deg weather or below. I used mine just yesterday to see that it still works, to top off my 25 (measured 27) mm at 80 / 90 quickly.

At 160 lbs that's a pretty firm ride for me. You are at 180, what width tires and pressure are you running?
I've never had luck with any mini-pumps. Of course I haven't tried all of them. I inflate my 28mm tires to about 100 psi. The CO2 inflator works in about 2 seconds. In fact if you're not totally careful you could probably blow a tire. You should test it out first before using it for the first time on the road. Some of the inflators are sensitive and you could blow your wad before you even get to the tube valve!
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Frame fits just look right on so many decades worth of road bikes...
A full sized frame pump never looks out of place.
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