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Old 02-27-13, 04:07 AM
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In my reading here I have figured out that a Schwinn Paramount is the top dog for Schwinns, How do you rate the rest
Varsity, Continental, etc.
and what years are considered good.
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It very much depends on the year you have specifically in mind. For instance:

1963: Paramount, Superior, Continental, Varsity
1966: Paramount, Super Sport, Continental, Varsity, Collegiate

1974: Paramount, World Voyageur (Japan made) Sports Tourer, Super Sport, LeTour (Japan made), Continental, Suburban, Varsity, Collegiate

Check this link for assistance for each year between 1960-79.
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Late 1930s and 1940s Light Weights:

Paramount- Superior- New World

You also find hybrids of the bikes with better components. It seems you could order bikes with varying parts to create an "in between" type thing, if you wanted.
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On the Waterford site are all the Schwinn catalogues scans. Look at the catalogue for any particular year you are interested in and you can see the hierarchy. Waterford is a Wisconsin company that makes high end custom bikes. It is operated by Richard Schwinn who is the great grandson of Ignaz Schwinn, a German immigrant who founded the Schwinn bike company in 1896.


https://waterfordbikes.com/now/news.php?newsid=244
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I have an '88 Prologue. My understanding is that it is a higher end road bike, just under the Paramount.
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
I have an '88 Prologue. My understanding is that it is a higher end road bike, just under the Paramount.
I thought the Peloton slid in there somewhere but I can never keep Prologue and Peloton straight in my head.

edited to add: It appears Prologue was later 80s and Peloton was a few years earlier.

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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
It very much depends on the year you have specifically in mind. For instance:

1963: Paramount, Superior, Continental, Varsity
1966: Paramount, Super Sport, Continental, Varsity, Collegiate

1974: Paramount, World Voyageur (Japan made) Sports Tourer, Super Sport, LeTour (Japan made), Continental, Suburban, Varsity, Collegiate

Check this link for assistance for each year between 1960-79.
Didn't the Super Sport retire for a while starting in '74?
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Prologue was available as a frame and fork only.
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Originally Posted by poke em
Prologue was available as a frame and fork only.
Silly question, what kind of tubing did the prologue use?
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
Silly question, what kind of tubing did the prologue use?
Tange Prestige
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Originally Posted by poke em
Tange Prestige
Now I'm gonna have to consult advanced search and finally compare prestige to SL/SP.. thanks!
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
Now I'm gonna have to consult advanced search and finally compare prestige to SL/SP.. thanks!
The Peloton was second-in-command from '84-'86*, before mysteriously disappearing in '87...

T'was a dark day for the entire fleet.

*The actual Mutiny on the Bounty occurred in 1787.

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Originally Posted by calamarichris
The Peloton was second-in-command from '84-'86*, before mysteriously disappearing in '87...

T'was a dark day for the entire fleet.

*The actual Mutiny on the Bounty occurred in 1787.
Not for me, it marked the rise of the butted seamed tenax tempo
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I have as yet unbuilt 88 Prologue frame and fork in my garage, size 55 cm. Have not yet made up my mind what to put on it. Its orange and white.
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If your Prologue is original, it came in either red and white, or gray and black. No orange.
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Didn't the Super Sport retire for a while starting in '74?
The fillet-brazed Super Sport last appeared in the '73 catalog, however Schwinn actually continued building and selling them in '74 until they ran out of frames. The remaining leftover frame parts were made into frames (with no serial numbers) and bikes in '77 as the "Sport Limited". The Super Sport name then reappeared in '81 on a lugged frame touring model.

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Originally Posted by Metacortex
The fillet-brazed Super Sport last appeared in the '73 catalog, however Schwinn actually continued building and selling them in '74. The remaining leftover frames were used in '79 for a limited run as the "Sport Limited". The Super Sport name then reappeared in '81 on a lugged frame touring model.
Thanks for that info. Now in addition to ‘71s with forged drop outs I have took for an SS with’74 build date. I guess there’s alwaysroom for one more.
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
Now I'm gonna have to consult advanced search and finally compare prestige to SL/SP.. thanks!
. funny you should (facetiously) mention this...

I have a an 87 Paramount with SL/SP tubing and a modern Soma Smoothie with Tange Prestige. My experience is that the Soma is a more compliant ride, like butter it is so smooth on the road, yet still responsive. My Schwinn is more rigid, stiffer in the BB even though it is considerably older but feels quicker accelerating. Both are great bikes and I really enjoy riding one after I have been riding the other for a while because each gives a different riding experience.

Here is an article I found exploring this exact question, I don't know whether there would be a difference in my modern Tange tubes and those on the bike tested for the article.

https://www.bgcycles.com/frame-tubing-selection.html

Here also is a less useful thread I started a while back on the subject which lead to me discovering the above article (I misstate in the thread that my Schwinn is 86 when it is in fact 87 but that doesn't effect tubing anyway).

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...kes?highlight=
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Originally Posted by DOS
. funny you should (facetiously) mention this...

I have a an 87 Paramount with SL/SP tubing and a modern Soma Smoothie with Tange Prestige. My experience is that the Soma is a more compliant ride, like butter it is so smooth on the road, yet still responsive. My Schwinn is more rigid, stiffer in the BB even though it is considerably older but feels quicker accelerating. Both are great bikes and I really enjoy riding one after I have been riding the other for a while because each gives a different riding experience.

Here is an article I found exploring this exact question, I don't know whether there would be a difference in my modern Tange tubes and those on the bike tested for the article.

https://www.bgcycles.com/frame-tubing-selection.html

Here also is a less useful thread I started a while back on the subject which lead to me discovering the above article (I misstate in the thread that my Schwinn is 86 when it is in fact 87 but that doesn't effect tubing anyway).

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...kes?highlight=
Actually I was quite serious despite the delivery, right after I even went browsing for more info. Thank you very much for linking that article it was a very good read. The thread I do vaguely recall now. Oh and I'm very glad the pink bike won, I might have had to get an ironman otherwise.
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it should also be mentioned that if the bike is in great condition - most schwinns models gain interest from some segment of their dedicated enthusiast base
mostly due to their americonic style
me peronsally i have owned and ridden several and enjoyed them all
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Originally Posted by marley mission
it should also be mentioned that if the bike is in great condition - most schwinns models gain interest from some segment of their dedicated enthusiast base
mostly due to their americonic style
me peronsally i have owned and ridden several and enjoyed them all
But did you keep any of them?
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But did you keep any of them?
haha nope
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