Speaking of Freds
03-03-08, 04:08 PM
#51
fixed or bent
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 715
Bikes: 1989 Panasonic Track 4000, 2000 Burley Django (bike show prototype), 1980's Serotta Custom Criterium
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Um, no. Nice try though. Fred was traditionally used as a term to describe everyone who wasn't a road racer or track racer. Anyone who didn't race was a Fred. Some were more Fred-ish than others. Bicycle tourists, commuters, and recumbent riders were the hallmarks of Fred-ness. Beards, flannel, Bell cyclotouring helmets, third eye mirrors, kickstands, etc., were all very Fred. The term was obnoxious, the elitism was unwarranted, and I'm amazed people are still so full of this crap. Reality is, the average Fred enjoys cycling a lot more than the average person calling them a Fred.
03-03-08, 04:11 PM
#52
fixed or bent
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 715
Bikes: 1989 Panasonic Track 4000, 2000 Burley Django (bike show prototype), 1980's Serotta Custom Criterium
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
03-03-08, 04:20 PM
#53
partly metal, partly real
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philadelphia.
Posts: 3,597
Bikes: Hummer H2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
you sorta just proved his point, spoon.
ed: wait, you're both right.
is someone editing that article?
ed: wait, you're both right.
is someone editing that article?
03-03-08, 04:40 PM
#54
a.k.a. QUADZILLA
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,505
Bikes: Super Pista, Basso, Big Dummy
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
So, these two guys were Freds?
Oh and Fred was a term we threw around a lot in the eighties to describe anyone who wasn't a cool road racer or track racer like we were. We were young and too stupid to realize that guys with long hair and beards riding recumbents were way cooler than we were, and having more fun at it too.
Oh and Fred was a term we threw around a lot in the eighties to describe anyone who wasn't a cool road racer or track racer like we were. We were young and too stupid to realize that guys with long hair and beards riding recumbents were way cooler than we were, and having more fun at it too.
03-03-08, 05:48 PM
#55
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,155
Bikes: Zeus (Razesa) tarck, Giant TCR road, Eddy Merckx road, Fuji Touring Series IV for everything else
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
This isn't fair. The one fellow I know who happens to be a pretty hip guy and owned a custom painted Concept is probably the most generous cyclist around. I think most negativity in the cycling community can be derived from blanket assumptions like this. Even I'm guilty of it. Just food for thought, you know. More positive vibes or something.
(negativity helps me get through the day. And I'm not really all that negative. remember dutret?)
03-03-08, 06:21 PM
#57
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Davis CA
Posts: 3,959
Bikes: Surly Cross-Check, '85 Giant road bike (unrecogizable fixed-gear conversion
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
3 Posts
It depends on the style of sunglasses. I always wear aviator glasses, so the helmet straps keep them in place and not falling down my nose all the time.
03-03-08, 09:43 PM
#58
not actually Nickatina
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: OR
Posts: 4,447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If he's that much of a cyclist he should have known to stay away from the concept. You said "owned". Does this mean that he can be counted among the ranks of the countable again?
(negativity helps me get through the day. And I'm not really all that negative. remember dutret?)
(negativity helps me get through the day. And I'm not really all that negative. remember dutret?)
03-03-08, 09:45 PM
#59
not actually Nickatina
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: OR
Posts: 4,447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Um, no. Nice try though. Fred was traditionally used as a term to describe everyone who wasn't a road racer or track racer. Anyone who didn't race was a Fred. Some were more Fred-ish than others. Bicycle tourists, commuters, and recumbent riders were the hallmarks of Fred-ness. Beards, flannel, Bell cyclotouring helmets, third eye mirrors, kickstands, etc., were all very Fred. The term was obnoxious, the elitism was unwarranted, and I'm amazed people are still so full of this crap. Reality is, the average Fred enjoys cycling a lot more than the average person calling them a Fred.
But terms do change over time as well.
03-04-08, 02:04 PM
#62
Ride simple.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Colorado Mountains/New Mexico highlands
Posts: 381
Bikes: vitus 979, g fisher, specialized, trek, bridgestone rb1, Trek SS, Hiawatha SS, 54' Schwinn SS, Trek SS CX conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Holy Cow! I'm a FRED!
03-04-08, 02:15 PM
#63
ALL PARTY
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 664
Bikes: Douglas Touring Cross Wise, Urbanite Fixed Gear
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
03-04-08, 04:11 PM
#64
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 663
Bikes: Rossin Track Bike,Canondale Track, RB-1, Ridley Crossbow, Felt Breed, Felt Sector 24
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Maybe about halfway to "real" cyclist?
__________________
T A R C K B I K E . C O M
T A R C K B I K E . C O M
03-04-08, 04:48 PM
#65
Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Welly, NZ
Posts: 44
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Glasses outside the straps to avoid sharp things in the eye in a crash.
Shoe covers are for cold days or aerodynamics in TTs.
I moonlight as a roadie.
Shoe covers are for cold days or aerodynamics in TTs.
I moonlight as a roadie.
03-04-08, 05:27 PM
#66
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: los angeles
Posts: 2,147
Bikes: 2012 redline conquest pro / 2008 yeti 575 / motobecan fantom cross uno
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
i wear hurley sunglasses and wear them underneath. it feels fine.
03-04-08, 06:03 PM
#67
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,155
Bikes: Zeus (Razesa) tarck, Giant TCR road, Eddy Merckx road, Fuji Touring Series IV for everything else
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
03-04-08, 07:30 PM
#68
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 663
Bikes: Rossin Track Bike,Canondale Track, RB-1, Ridley Crossbow, Felt Breed, Felt Sector 24
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Damn Kyle, Thailand has got you all surly lately. Come home and I'll feed you some deep fried tofu, that should make it better.
I should add that I don't want a concept
I should add that I don't want a concept
__________________
T A R C K B I K E . C O M
T A R C K B I K E . C O M
03-04-08, 08:29 PM
#69
not actually Nickatina
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: OR
Posts: 4,447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Um, what? There's two possible reasons I could think of. One, subjective perception that the Concept is a hipster bike and therefore not to be used by a "real" cyclist, and two, the fact that it's aluminum and possibly more harsh for long rides, assuming you think real cyclists are roadies (key word assume). In either case, the nice guy cyclist mentioned previously could be a track racer for all we know, or just like aluminum/light and stiff bikes. So yeah, you're basically confusing the **** out of me with your elusiveness, unless you're joking in which case some emoticons would be nice 
03-04-08, 11:27 PM
#70
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,155
Bikes: Zeus (Razesa) tarck, Giant TCR road, Eddy Merckx road, Fuji Touring Series IV for everything else
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Um, what? There's two possible reasons I could think of. One, subjective perception that the Concept is a hipster bike and therefore not to be used by a "real" cyclist, and two, the fact that it's aluminum and possibly more harsh for long rides, assuming you think real cyclists are roadies (key word assume). In either case, the nice guy cyclist mentioned previously could be a track racer for all we know, or just like aluminum/light and stiff bikes. So yeah, you're basically confusing the **** out of me with your elusiveness, unless you're joking in which case some emoticons would be nice
*sigh*...ok. Here's how it works. I was really only talking about the concepts that have the really nice paint jobs. Not stock or rattlecan or basic powdercoat. And then on the concepts that are ridden only on the street. If your concept satisfies both of those criteria, you aren't a cyclist.
I might have made a comment about the aluminum, but I'm riding aluminum now (mostly due to my limited selection of available frames here) so I won't.
And finally. Of course I'm joking. But I refuse to use the smiley thingys. I refuse to even call them "emoticons". I think they are ridiculous and childish. They discredit all arguments and lessen the humor of all jokes that they are attached to. And this I'm dead serious about.
03-05-08, 03:34 AM
#71
Thighmaster
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 193
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It also depends on the helmet. A lot of helmets have the straps moulded into the shell, so there is a lot of clearance between the strap and your temple. Too much clearance to put glasses on the outside of unless you are wearing team issue euro roadie glasses.
