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Old 05-23-08, 02:50 PM   #1
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scattante ssr fixed build

story - i thought i'd share some photos of my scanttante ssr frame and salsa casseroll fork. i had intended to build this up as a commuter bike. then i saw a sweet lemond fillmore 06 on CL so I bought that bike and built it up with the intention to sell the scattante frameset. i tried to sell the scattante on portland.craigslist for a reasonable price but i didn't even get a single bite. now i have an orphaned frame and fork. it certainly lacks street cred with the 'me-too' crowd but it's a nice setup, particularly for the price i paid for it.

i am on vacation now but when i return, i am going to build this up and sell it as a complete bike or maybe just keep it as my beater.

details - this is 58cm (56 c-c) and weighs 4.2 pounds. it's got integrated chain tugs and double butted cro-mo tubing. the downtube is somewhat ovalized and tapered. the sales brochure states that the tubing is mitred at an angle parellel to the connection points and that smaller weld beads can be used with this process. it certainly looks that way. the welds are tiny and very uniform. the decals are over the clearcoat, (woot woot.)

misses - did not come with bottle cage bolts and seat post collar. the frames lack rear rack mounts but the salsa fork will accept one

geometry - is wierd. it's got 74/75 deg angles with a road-like 40.5cm chainstay. i like the CS length but i didn't like the ultra steep angles so that's why i bought the salsa casseroll fork from QBP. it's a 385mm axel-to-crown fork, which is 15mm taller than a traditional road/track fork (368mm). this will have the effect of slackening the HTA and STA down to ~73 deg and raising the BB height slightly by ~6mm. (I did some math.)

this thead - i hope to track my progress to share with others; i will continue to bump this thread with photos with build updates.

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Old 05-23-08, 02:56 PM   #2
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looks good to me. will be cool to see the progress!
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Old 05-23-08, 02:58 PM   #3
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i actually like my scattante ssr


just take off the decals duder!
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i like the look of the frame
except for the fork
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i'm dead serious when i say this, the frame looks exactly like my kilo with different geo, HT, and dropouts. in otherwords, the welds and pipe diameters look the same.
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Old 05-23-08, 04:53 PM   #6
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is that surprising? **** was probably made in the same factory...
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i'm dead serious when i say this, the frame looks exactly like my kilo with different geo, HT, and dropouts. in otherwords, the welds and pipe diameters look the same.
i have to respectfully disagree. here's the kilo tt.

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nice bro i dig the fork it goes good with the frame imho
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Old 05-23-08, 06:48 PM   #9
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Scattantes are nice, i have a single speed XRL, with Deep Vs and it rides like a dream, great bikes for the price. That bike complete is only $299 at performance bike. Something worth checking out.
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Here's mine (56cm) I just picked up at the Performance store last Wed. I'm building mine up with a carbon fork, Nitto Moustache h/bar and maybe tubular rims. I also am installing a Dura-Ace 7400 crank and BB this weekend that I'm using off another fixie conversion that I'm "retiring" (putting out to pasture).

I'm pushing 50 years old so I don't give a damn about "street cred". I just want something light, fast, comfortable, and fun to ride!

We'll have to compare builds!

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Update -

I still need cranks, bottle cage bolts, seat collar, crankset, chain and a headset. The steering column needs to be cut as well. I've basically transplanted all the stock Lemond Fillmore parts onto the Scattante. I think I will do the same for the Bontrager cranks/external BB as well so I can have an excuse to replace it with something fancier. The wheels are Deep-V Machined wheelset with Velocity hubs, 32-spoke.

Here's what it's looking like now:


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I want to see a picture of that fillmore it looks amazing from this shot! How are you liking the imperial? I'm not loving mine on my fixed but I think if I had it on a set up like that fillmore it would be the bees knees. And the build is looking great so far, but I thought this was a fixed build and I see two brakes? I vote you remove all the decals or just leave the seattube one, whats the plan?
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I don't like that fork.
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I want to see a picture of that fillmore it looks amazing from this shot! How are you liking the imperial? I'm not loving mine on my fixed but I think if I had it on a set up like that fillmore it would be the bees knees. And the build is looking great so far, but I thought this was a fixed build and I see two brakes? I vote you remove all the decals or just leave the seattube one, whats the plan?
the fillmore is a lot like the scattante, only better. i have it set up as a path-racer/coffee getter. i've done a 55 mile ride on it with the new brooks imperial and i really like the saddle except for the fact that it squeaks.







on the scattante, i am trying to leave it as generic as possible so i have an easier time selling it on craiglist - no removed decals, tall spacer stack, etc. i decided that it is too similar to the fillmore to merit keeping it around.
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Um.....damn. Inspiration.
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gah! really makes me want to get started on my ss project.
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What bars are those on your fillmore? I really like them, I was thinking soma's Noah's arc bars but I really like the deeper swoop of those and I may have to weigh my options further. BTW the corks are just about the perfect touch to set that bike off! Color me jealous, I have to say that I think I may have an strikingly similar SS build in the next few months because you built that perfectly! And I've already got the brooks which is the best use of the imperial I've seen thus far and most of the stuff other than a frame. Crap now I have to make room for a new build and find the money to do so
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I'm curious about what you think of the ScAtTANte frame quality... I just got their cross frame and will be building it up this week.
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Hey thanks man. The bars are Nitto B618 Promenades - you have to use a fairly long stem with it due to the sweep.

More info about the bike on velospace. I am shopping for new cranks and will be installing the stock Bontragers GXP cranks on the Scattante.

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What bars are those on your fillmore? I really like them, I was thinking soma's Noah's arc bars but I really like the deeper swoop of those and I may have to weigh my options further. BTW the corks are just about the perfect touch to set that bike off! Color me jealous, I have to say that I think I may have an strikingly similar SS build in the next few months because you built that perfectly! And I've already got the brooks which is the best use of the imperial I've seen thus far and most of the stuff other than a frame. Crap now I have to make room for a new build and find the money to do so
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I'm curious about what you think of the ScAtTANte frame quality... I just got their cross frame and will be building it up this week.
I'm not sure how much is in common with your alloy frame and my steel frame other than the name because I suspect that Scattante is merely a branding company for Taiwanese frames. But, the SSR frame is very high quality. The weld beads are actually smaller than those on my Lemond steel bikes and the track ends are great. The paint looks thin; however, from a structural perspective the frame is solid. It's made in Taiwan using double butted 4130 chro-mo steel vs True Temper OX Platinum steel on my Lemonds, which are made in the US.

Hands down it's a better built frame than a steel Pista.

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If you are interested I am selling a set of Suntour Superbe Pro Track cranks and have a superbe pro chainring to go with it. They aren't black which I would assume your looking for but they are the best cranks I've ever spun on. I'm just in Eugene and am up in Portland this weekend if you want to take a look. PM me if you are interested.
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UPDATE

Here's the final product.

I ended up swapping forks with the Lemond Fillmore I have since I like the versatility of the taller Salsa fork better. It handles like a Bianchi Pista but slightly more comfortable but that might be because the chainstay and TT is a bit longer than the Pista I had.











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i am wondering if there is any toe overlap on a 54cm frame. I see you don't have cages, but how close is it on your 58?
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There will be overlap on a most any 54cm frame with cages, my size not so much. It's not a big deal really.
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Thank you for your timely response but you did not answer my question. Again, i see you do not have cages but in your normal foot position how close is the toe overlap on your 58? Is it not even close, is it close?

I understand for most people it's a non-issue, but it is a big deal for me when I have to navigate sharp turns at low speeds on my kilo tt. I am looking for a more relaxed frame with no toe overlap, and so far i've only come across the SE Lager/Dawes SST and the IRO Mark V that fit the description in my search.

I do not in any way mean to come off snappy. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, your bikes are looking great.
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