cc700

well the kilo can't fit much more than a 28c tire. in fact, it's a huge if with 25c depending on chain length and whatnot.

i wouldn't like to take my kilo on snowy roads. put knobby tires on an sst and you'll find a little more sucess.

JimmyJars

Whats the standover on the 54 and 56cm dawes sst?

awristawful

cc700 thanks so much for the heads up.

i think you just made my decision that much more simple to choose.

imoscardotcom

just a question, not being a dick.

the motobecane, dawes, mercier, etc. bikes that you guys have are of no relation with the old brands of the same name, right? their websites look bunkish, and I'm just confused about who is who?

again, not being a dick

cc700

motobecane, dawes, and mercier all have stopped marketing in the US, leaving the names up for grabs. that way, bikesdirect and its affiliates can use the names. luckily for us, they also use the same factories overseas as many of the other big brands like KHS and probably Trek or whatever, so the frames and components are all of good quality. the road bikes in particular are excellent buys.

onespeed89

Well put. On a side note, picking out a new bike is so hard, so many choices.

Anyone know when the Kilos will be up for pre order?

Lodger

Hey guys,

I'm 6'4" with a 34" inseam. What size SST would you recommend for me?

Thanks!

onespeed89

I'd say the 61cm.

Lodger

That was my first inclination. My road bike is a 60, I guess I just want to make sure that I'm not getting something that will be too big.

onespeed89

the geo on the sst is lax, you should be good and like the 61

Lodger

Thanks for the input. I've also been thinking about the Schwinn Madison. What would you guys think of the Dawes vs. the Madison?

onespeed89

probably the dawes, its cheaper, and i think looks cooler, plus it comes with horns and i really think it is a good urban assault bike, now if you want more of a track/true fixed gear (since the sst is a SS and can be a fixed gear) i'd go with either the madison, Kilo, or Hour

Lodger

I'm never going to ride on a track, it will simply be my around town bike.

daybreak

I've test rode them both at Performance Bike: an SE Lager (which is the Dawes SST) and the Madison. The Madison is noticeably heavier at 23 LBS, while the Dawes comes in a bit lighter at 21.5 LBS. The Madison was a beautiful bike and it felt better than the SE Lager, but that might not mean much because the Madison was a couple sizes too big and the SE Lager was 1 size too small. For $329 for the SST, you really can't beat it. If they had the Madison in my size that day, I would have probably have purchased it, based on cosmetic purposes (the SE Lager's brown is ugly, imo.)

onespeed89

anyone know when the kilos will be up for pre order? and if they are getting any more hours in as well?

FrenchFries

^^^ just get the SST

onespeed89

Not what im looking for, i really have been holding out for a track bike. It's either the Kilo, Hour or im spending some bank and buying an IRO Angus.

awristawful

I've feel the same way. It was too late when I was considering too. just weeks ago i was indecisive about the silver hour or waiting for a kilo. then I got indecisive about getting an orange motobecane. finally, i've concluded that if I had waited this long, i might as well wait for a kilo. Breaking my piggy bank(sic) for something more than that has been tough to consider.

triollie

It looks like BD has the Kilo available for preorder. I've been debating between the Kilo and the Dawes as my first fixed/ss bike. I would probably use it primarily as a weekend bike and maybe a commuter. Does anyone have a suggestion on which would be better?

I hear that the frame on the Kilo is better so it has more upgrade potential (like people are more likely to keep the frame while upgrading components), but has a more aggressive track geometry.

citybeats

How much will the Pro cost?

onespeed89

Just ordered a black 53cm kilo, and will probably end up ordering a pro when they come out. Any idea what the difference between the normal Kilo and the Pro is?

ZiP0082

the quality of stock components, frameset may be identical.

pirate golf

How did you order one? BD.com still says they're sold out.

onespeed89

They have them up for preorder right now. still have black in a 53 and green in pretty much everything. Im thinking of ordering another to have as a true track bike and one for the street.

pirate golf

Sweet!