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Old 11-29-08, 08:00 AM   #1
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Felt Curbside 56 or 58?

Hi i'm lookin at a felt curbside though cant decide whether i should go for a 56 or 58, i'm just over 6ft (mabey 6'1 if i stand up straight, however rarely), usually have 34 pants ...i kinda like a fairly upright position for looking around (as its gonna be used in the city pretty much), and i want to keep weight off my arms ( RSI stuff )...oh yeah im buying off the net cause i cant get it here, so thats why i cant go for a proper fit...was gonna go for the 56? though i like to stand up alot when i'm cycling so maybe i'd be less 'over the front of the bike' on a 58, i dunno i'm confused... any help appreciated...cheers

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Old 11-29-08, 08:41 AM   #2
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Fit is a highly subjective art, and it's hard to suggest a size based on just your height and a "usually have" inseam measurement. That said, I'm 6'0 with a 35" inseam and 36" sleeve (yes, I have stupid-long limbs), and my professional fitter recommends a 61.5cm seat tube and 59.5cm top tube (both c-c) for me. I like my frames on the bigger side so I can get full leg extension.

For you, I'd say anything smaller than a 58 would probably be wrong.
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Old 11-29-08, 08:42 AM   #3
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im 6ft if i stand up straight, and usually wear a 32 pants inseam because no one makes a 31. i prefer the fit of a 58, but it really depends on the company. i can't ride a surly 58cm LHT, but all of my schwinns are 58 cm. i just sold my 56 cm raleigh so i can get a 58cm race bike. its really up to your preference. id go down to your lbs and check out a few bikes (even geared are fine). find one that is comfortable, take a few measurements and go from there. you can't know your size without having ridden something first.
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Old 11-29-08, 08:50 AM   #4
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hmm i guess i was thinking of it'd be easier to extend a 56 than shorten a 58...i had a go on a kona paddy 56, seemed nice, and a genisis skyline 58 though i thought i was slightly stretched, but then different gemoetry / drops (i was holding the hoods) and maybe im just used to smaller bikes, ive mostly rode mountain/bmxs and an old 52 allez thats way too small for me (now my lil brothers...i was always moving things around - never felt comfortable) ...maybe then i should be on 58 though, i suppose from a ergonomic point of view its better to 'lenghten' your body than shorten it...
...cheers btw...

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Old 11-29-08, 09:04 AM   #5
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size 51 54 56 58 61
HA 72 73 73.5 74 74
SA 75 74.5 73.5 73.5 73.5
TT horiz 525 545 560 575 590
TT C-C 508 528 540 555 571
Head Tube 120 140 160 180 200
ST C-T 470 500 520 540 570
ST C-C 398 428 448 468 498
BB Drop 65 65 65 65 65
CS 400 400 400 400 400
Front Center 583 591 589 599 614
Wheelbase 979 987 985 996 1010
Rake 45 45 43 43 43
Standover 714 741 760 780 806
Crank Length 170 170 172.5 172.5 175
Stem 90 90 110 110 110
H-bar 540 540 540 540 540
Seat Post 27.2 x 350mm 27.2 x 350mm 27.2 x 350mm 27.2 x 350mm 27.2 x 350mm
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Old 11-29-08, 04:50 PM   #6
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those schwinn's are well nice, never heard of them before, like the madison, very clean lines, though i think i'll stick with the curbside...
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Old 11-29-08, 05:37 PM   #7
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im 6"1 and ride 58
56 will be too small mate
if you're still having doubts go to LBS and try both
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I'm 6'0" and have a 58cm curbside. Everyone else is correct - don't get a 56.
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Old 11-30-08, 12:23 AM   #9
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do you really like the curbside? really?
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yeah i do,... seems alot of people aren't, but most of the criticism seems to be on the styling (and geometry) it's good technically, no?, ...i like it aesthetically, was gonna go for the white one, though take off the red stuff...like i said i've always been more into mountain bikes and bmx's, i think it is more that kind of styling, not really an 80's racer type (not that i dislike them-just not me)...it was either that or the langster ( not mad on the silver, too slik cool, or the Monaco's too track racery ) or the genisis flyer ( nice though not sure about the snot green, id probably get sick of it) plus they've all drops so i'd have to buy flats/ brakes...i was looking at the plug freestyle, cheaper, apparently not great kit, though its all steel so heavier and maybe a bit uncomfortable on these roads vs the curbsides carbon forks?...i dont really have the time/knowledge to build something myself, mabey some day though...

im gonna order that probably today, so ye reckon definitely go with 58? (forgive me but what would make a 56 too small; id have the saddle higher so be id higher above the bars? and more compacted horizontally?)...
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Get a 56 or smaller for upright position...
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With you being about 6'1, the seatpost would be about 2 inches higher than this for proper leg fit. I'm 6'0" and have raised it an inch since the pic was taken. That means you would be reaching way down on a 56 unlike what miahmiah claims. The 58 comes with a 120mm 5 degree stem so you could swap that for something shorter and higher if you want to be more upright or compacted. 56 is too small. I also hate to see a foot of seatpost exposed. Maybe that is just me.

Go to the local lbs and try a 56 of anything and see how you like it.
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there is a guy that I see who commutes everyday on a felt cubside. the geometry and the flashy colors and top-tube pad just make him look goofy. the bicycle looks like it was primarily designed in a marketing room by guys in suits who's aim was to sell a lifestyle and this kid bought into it because he wanted to be cool too. And $700? You'd be better served with another aluminum complete that is less of a gimmick and not as expensive. The components are not bad, but definitely not worth $700. I'd be patient and pick up another aluminum frame that you like ("non-80s racer style" or whatever that means) and just build it up with components that you like. Get the headset and bottom-bracket installed professionially and do the rest yourself. You'll save money or have more money to spend on higher quality stuff and you wont look like a sucker on the street.
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Old 11-30-08, 01:51 PM   #14
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Aren't most entry-level SS bikes around $700 nowadays?

And who cares what people like olo think about you "on the streets." Get the bike you like and be happy. Happy trails!
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The curbside looks absolutely stupid in person, yes, but that was only a minor part of my argument against the bike. I say, build your own - he'll have a unique and higher quality ride and would perhaps save some money. And if he builds it up exactly as he likes it, there's less chance he'll regret the purchase of the curbside in a few months, leaving the bike to collect dust (highly likely - anyone who likes this bike must be temporarily insane but will eventually come back to their senses).
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oh thought i'd say i got the curbside, tanx for the advice.... thank god i didn't get the 56 , i probably shouldve went for the 60 actually, but the 58's not too bad...overall i really like it, though it probably is a little overpriced, though it was either this or the flyer and theres not that much between them ...changed the saddle and the bars (too flat), pedals are bit cheapo, other than that its a pretty nice ride...
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Get a 56 or smaller for upright position...
no. no no no.
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