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Old 10-31-13, 03:17 PM
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Price drop on Kilo WT

Now $399

https://bikesdirect.com/products/merc...tt_wt_xiii.htm


Been looking to either buy or build a "rugged" steel frame fixie. This is temping. Although I don't really care about running tires wider then 28mm so I might just get The Hour as this will be more of a beater bike. ....or build up an inexpensive frame like a Fyxation but even a $200 frame set is going to add up once I build up.
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Although I don't really care about running tires wider then 28mm so I might just get The Hour as this will be more of a beater bike.
Versatility is a plus, big tires are nice on a "rugged" bike.
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love mine, got almost 8,000 miles on it thus far. wider tires don't necessarily cause more rolling resistance if you are worried about that. tread pattern and inflation makes a bigger difference. you could also install a rack which is a nice plus, not that i have one on mine. makes a nice winter bike if you want to go really wide on tires, i think it fits up to 40mm. verify toe overlap with that big of a tire.

inspect the parts if you order. pay attention to the seat post diameter. check for cracks at the seat post binder bolt. do a search of BF on frame cracks.
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62 cm is it. Or preorder.
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Originally Posted by Standalone
62 cm is it. Or preorder.
Looks like they also have a 49cm in pearl white.
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What was it originally? This might be exactly the thing I'm looking for at the moment.
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What was it originally? This might be exactly the thing I'm looking for at the moment.
Don't quote me but I vaguely remember $489.
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Whatever became of "The Great Deal / Sale Thread"?
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Originally Posted by john4789
makes a nice winter bike if you want to go really wide on tires, i think it fits up to 40mm.
I think a winter bike is the last thing that rms might worry about.

He gets rid of snow in his driveway by waiting for the morning sun.
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Yes, I'm not in the market for a winter bike ;-) Just one I can ride off curbs and light off road. Something between a track bike and a fgfs. I've rolled up to 38mm, 32mm, 28, 25 and 23 on different bikes I've owned. 38 always felt slow and I didn't notice much more comfort in 32 over 28 so for where I ride I don't feel the need for anything more then 28. And also it hardly rains let alone worrying about snow so clearance for fender doesn't matter to me
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Yes, I'm not in the market for a winter bike ;-) Just one I can ride off curbs and light off road. Something between a track bike and a fgfs. I've rolled up to 38mm, 32mm, 28, 25 and 23 on different bikes I've owned. 38 always felt slow and I didn't notice much more comfort in 32 over 28 so for where I ride I don't feel the need for anything more then 28. And also it hardly rains let alone worrying about snow so clearance for fender doesn't matter to me
The Motobecane Messenger might just be the ticket. I've got 28mm Fyxation Session tires on mine, but they run closer to 32mm in actual width. I'm more abusive of this bike than any other, and it's held up well with curb jumps, stair drops etc. Mine is heavily modified, but the stocker isn't too bad.



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Originally Posted by AristoNYC
Don't quote me but I vaguely remember $489.
It was $479 recently, but it was $439 when I bought mine 3+ years ago. The important thing about it is the sealed cartridge bearing hubs.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
The Motobecane Messenger might just be the ticket. I've got 28mm Fyxation Session tires on mine, but they run closer to 32mm in actual width. I'm more abusive of this bike than any other, and it's held up well with curb jumps, stair drops etc. Mine is heavily modified, but the stocker isn't too bad.



Thanks. Any reason you recommend that over the Hour for $20 less?
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Thanks. Any reason you recommend that over the Hour for $20 less?
I use a front brake and the base Windsor Hour comes with only a rear brake. Otherwise, I suspect they are very similar.
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Darn, it's too bad I have my heart settled on my wide tire bike to be a surly pugsley. =/
Good deal nonetheless.
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I love these bike's I would for sure get one if I didn't own a Surly Steamroller. Super good deal on them too for 400. Do you guys who own one like it more over the steamroller?

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I don't own the WT, but I do own both a TT and a Steamroller, the TT was bought as a second/beater bike. I know BD likes to claim that the WT is Comparable to the Steamroller, good for them. I don't think they're close, I don't hate the TT, I just enjoy riding the Steamroller alot more, it's a better built, better handling bike. You get what you pay for and with the TT and the WT the components are junk. Whereas with the Surly, the wheels had Surly hubs, Allen Rims (not great, but not the scary rims on the TT), and a Surly cog.

Plus, when I got my TT, there was a spot of rust in the clear coat on the left dropout that is probably as big as a dime, which means they painted the frame with rust on it and the rust bled through. Not a reason to send the bike back, but speaks of the quality of the build.
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Originally Posted by OneGoodLeg
I don't own the WT, but I do own both a TT and a Steamroller, the TT was bought as a second/beater bike. I know BD likes to claim that the WT is Comparable to the Steamroller, good for them. I don't think they're close, I don't hate the TT, I just enjoy riding the Steamroller alot more, it's a better built, better handling bike. You get what you pay for and with the TT and the WT the components are junk. Whereas with the Surly, the wheels had Surly hubs, Allen Rims (not great, but not the scary rims on the TT), and a Surly cog.

Plus, when I got my TT, there was a spot of rust in the clear coat on the left dropout that is probably as big as a dime, which means they painted the frame with rust on it and the rust bled through. Not a reason to send the bike back, but speaks of the quality of the build.
The standard Kilo TT is not comparable to the Kilo WT, which is equivalent quality wise to the Kilo TT Pro. The wheels on the Kilo WT are comparable to those on the Steamroller. Also, the cranks are brand name Sugino RD2, which are comparable quality to those on the Steamroller. I have a KIlo WT and a Salsa Casseroll, which has wheels with Surly hubs and Sugino RD2 cranks. Yes, smaller and less expensive parts like seatpost and saddle are lower quality than the Steamroller, but the differences are not enough to justify the Steamroller price being twice as much as the Kilo WT. Also, the welds on the WT are actually nicer than those on the Casseroll and the paint on my Kilo WT is very nice as well.
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