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Old 07-15-14, 06:14 AM
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Santiago Canyon Road Jackson Ranch road

About a year ago the police found the body of Mariel Ramos off W. Jackson Road in Santiago Canyon Road. Perhaps you recall riding there and have seen her picture on the side. Finally, the case goes to trial in Santa Ana.

Prosecutors: New Evidence Against Suspect In Murder Of Roommate, An Iraq War Vet « CBS Los Angeles
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If that's what passes for evidence these days, we're doomed as soon as some prosecutor decides he wants our parking spot.

Say, any news on what happened to the Jax mechanic's killer? Some young woman ran him off the road on Santiago Canyon... 6 months ago?
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I remember seeing the memorial for Mariel Ramos - quite chilling to see.

I've not heard anything about the woman who struck the young man - wasn't she a minor?
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I just looked and I can't find any updates newer than April - the rider was 21 yr old Joseph Robinson and the drunk 18 yr old was Sommer N. Gonzales.

Biking LA writes:
A preliminary hearing reveals 18-year old Sommer Gonzales had failed two drug tests while on probation for undisclosed crimes. And yet somehow, she was still allowed on the road to kill 21-year old cyclist Joe Robinson while driving under the influence.

Nice.
Gonzales has additional court hearings scheduled for May 19th and June 6th.
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Re: The Sommer Gonzales case referenced above:

She has plead not guilty or denied all charges against her.

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Originally Posted by tunavic
Re: The Sommer Gonzales case referenced above:
Your google-fu is strong. Where'd you find all that? Frankly, pleading not guilty is her right... I didn't know "denied" was a legitimate claim though. Since she was effectively caught red handed on at least some of those charges, I reckon it won't go well for her. Hope springs eternal.
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By the way I rode up Santiago Canyon this morning. Temps were good but it was a little muggy.

Anyway, I passed Joseph Robinson's ghost bike right at 8:10 am on a Sunday morning, which spooked me a little bit. I didn't realize that was where he got hit- there's a chain link fence right behind the guard rail (to which his ghost bike is attached... it looks like somebody is taking nice care of it). Tons of room on the road right there, tons of visibility (Obviously February might be a bit different, sunrise was at about 7 am whereas it was 5:30 or so this morning)

Made me a little sad and jumpy all at the same time.
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Unless there are facts that we don't know about, I hope the DA doesn't strike a plea deal that will leave us all wondering what our lives are worth while out on the road. The sentence for gross vehicular manslaughter is 4, 6 or 10 years. I think the flight from the scene adds 5 years. The rest of the charges don't look like they will add much time. Maybe a criminal atty can weigh in - but it sure seems like a joke given what we know about the circumstances...
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You can bet a lot of us will be keeping an eye on this case.

A plea deal? NO!! It sickens me to think that's a possibility unless really serious jail time is involved.
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Well, if we're lucky somebody with actual experience in the DA world can chime in and fill in the blanks, but from what I've learned over the years, it's a different mindset. I don't think you should lose your life over one mistake but in this case, we have a series of mistakes that lead to a very bad outcome for one individual and anybody who was tied to him. Drunk driving, illegal drugs, hit and run, a death.....

Before we sharpen the pitchforks let's let the legal system do it's thing but DAs are political animals and it's probably important to reinforce that there are people who care very deeply about car on bike violence.
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Update: There was some type of Pre Trial today and it was heard. The preliminary hearing for September has been cancelled (again) till October.


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O.C. Register reported the man is getting 15 years to life for killing Mariel Ramos

Man gets 15 years to life for killing roommate - The Orange County Register
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Update on the Sommer Gonzales case referenced above. In a couple of weeks there will be an arraignment. Perhaps they'll set a trial date at that time?


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Remembering Joey Robinson - Monday 2/2/15 Ride

To honor & remember our co-worker & friend we are doing what Joey loved, riding...

We will be riding to Joey's memorial "Ghost Bike" on Santiago Canyon to raise awareness that we are here & that we all need to SHARE the road.

The city allows Ghost Bikes to be placed on the anniversary of a cyclist death and to remain for 60 days.

When: Monday, February, 2nd 2015 - Meet at 6:30 am & Roll Out by 6:45 am (be back to Jax Irvine by 9 am)
Where: Jax Bicycle Center - Irvine - 14210-6H Culver Dr., Irvine, CA 92604

This will be a casual ride to spread awareness. Please share this ride information and we look forward to ride with you.

go to jaxbicycles.com for details and route
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Thanks for keeping this thread going

Thank you all for honoring the life of this young man and fellow cyclist today.

My family and I passed by the accident site around 8:30 the day it happened last year. Without knowing for sure, I got a sick feeling that something terrible had happened to a cyclist. An internet search later confirmed my sad suspicions. Only passing the site occasionally, the ghost bike always caused me to pause and reflect. By coincidence, I happened to pass the site yesterday around 8:30 and noticed the bike was gone and came here to see if there was any reason given (city rules) as well as check on the trial progress.

I sincerely hope the perpetrator faces the fullest consequence for her selfish, foolish, irresponsible act. Fortunately, I found this thread to track that progress. Please keep it going.
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The bike should be up

The bike came down quite some time ago because of the law. The bike should be up though, we put it up last Monday and it's aloud to stay up 60 days on the anniversary.






Originally Posted by GiveMe3Feet
Thank you all for honoring the life of this young man and fellow cyclist today.

My family and I passed by the accident site around 8:30 the day it happened last year. Without knowing for sure, I got a sick feeling that something terrible had happened to a cyclist. An internet search later confirmed my sad suspicions. Only passing the site occasionally, the ghost bike always caused me to pause and reflect. By coincidence, I happened to pass the site yesterday around 8:30 and noticed the bike was gone and came here to see if there was any reason given (city rules) as well as check on the trial progress.

I sincerely hope the perpetrator faces the fullest consequence for her selfish, foolish, irresponsible act. Fortunately, I found this thread to track that progress. Please keep it going.
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I think there was supposed to be an arraignment on Feb 3 - maybe tunavic can work his google-fu magic again and figure it out. The OC courts website is opaque to me.

BikingLA had a write up on 2/2 that fills in some of the details about that day, and although I think we know generally what happened, it's still disgusting.

A rider fallen, family and friends shattered, and a young woman on the verge of hard time | BikinginLA
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Another arraignment is scheduled for the 20th.

Additionally, his family has also filed a civil case against her.

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This hit and run happened over a year ago in my area. In this case the drunk driver crossed the center divider and hit Phillip Richards head on. Hopefully he'll received a stiff sentence

CALIMESA: Motorist convicted in death of bicyclist - Press Enterprise
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Good lord, how many times do they have to drag that wretched woman to court before they try her? I sincerely hope she's waiting this out in jail and not at home.

As for the Calimesa man - I have become jaded when I see things like "up to 15 years to life." That's like Geico's up to 15% or more. 0% is included in up to 15% or more, of course.
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@TrojanHorse It's my understanding she's been in jail since her arrest.
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Finally a date has been set for a jury trial.


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Man, the one time in my life I'd actually look forward to jury duty.
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one look at your glove tan or massive guads and a sharp defense attorney would have you dismissed. ; )
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