lvleph

So, I am looking to mount a rack to my Bob Jackson Vigorelli. There are no eyelets for mounting a rack and no rear brake. I already have a rack from an old bike, so all I need to find is the hardware needed to mount the current rack.

I have found some p-clamps for mounting to the seat stays, and I found a Tubus quick release mount for mounting at the drop-outs. However, the quick release mount was expensive and all I need is the hardware and not the quick release. $45 is a bit too much for hardware. Anyway, does anyone have some suggestions for mounting to the axle of a Phil Wood rear fixed hub?

If you have a different suggestion for mounting a rack or maybe some other way of carrying my gear then let me know.

EDIT: One thing I just realized; with an axle mount I would have to remove the rack to change a tire. I don't like this idea at all.

bradtx

Seat post mounted rear rack?

Brad

lvleph

I thought about that, but most seemed to only support 15 lbs. My hiking gear weighs less than 15 lbs, but then I would need to carry some extra things specific to cycling so I was not convinced that would work. I don't really know, since I have never done any touring. I am just starting to plan things now, so...

fietsbob

Solution +1 bike
Hang up the track fixie and get another bike with dropout eyelets
and thus ready to mount a rack.

.. of course you can always tow a trailer ..

lvleph

It is not a track fixie, I just chose to have it made with out a rear brake and obviously without eyelets. The bike was never intended for the track and won't be ridden on the track. I am going to ride this touring, so how about being more helpful. There have been people that have ridden fixed gear across the US, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same?

fietsbob

Vigorelli is the location/name of a Velodrome in Italy,
velodromes are tracks for bicycle races.

Well a fixie is the wrong tool for touring. , Good luck then .
still say get a 2 wheel trailer , a Burly Nomad is a put everything in it solution.
https://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...er-p-1310.html

you attach the trailer with a piece held down with your left axle nut.https://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...le-p-1251.html

or this piece that uses the left rear triangle [URL="https://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-classic-hitch-p-1253.html"[/URL]

shipwreck

Fietsbob was being helpfull. Its a good suggestion. I seldom use my sports car for hauling hay.

Yes lots of folks have ridden long distances on fixed gear, I have done it. I also chose a frame with lots of eyelets to do it on.

Now to be "helpfull".
If your load is fairly light, then four p clips, top and bottom will work, Ive seen it done. I would carry a spare clip and hardware. If the rack you have is made to fit the center of a brake bridge, then look for another rack. A new rack is a better idea than an old one anyway(unless you really know that it is a strong unabused rack), as rack failure sucks.

ploeg

This bike doesn't give you a lot of options. Just because other people have done something doesn't make it a good idea. I hope you at least have a front brake on this thing.

If you insist, the most viable option would be a trailer.

lvleph

I missed that fietsbob said the two wheel trailer, so I apologize. He was being helpful. I use to have a BOB trailer that I used with my old fixed gear, but I sold it because it seemed a bit too unwielding. However, this problem wouldn't be as bad with a two wheel trailer.

Now how would a p-clip work on the bottom of the rack. That seems like the best option for me, but I am not sure how that would work. Yes, I have a front brake.

ploeg

I wouldn't trust a p-clip to bear a load (or at least, I would prefer a seatpost-mount rack for loads that I would trust a p-clip to bear). P-clips will break, which is not so big of a deal when you have two of them holding the top of the rack in place. Could be not-so-much fun if one of the bottom ones break with a serious load.

lvleph

Yeah, I think I might just bight the bullet and buy the QR kit, but get rid of the QR part of it. I really was hoping someone knew of something that just had the hardware to connect the bottom to the axle.

bradtx

https://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html mount to the axle and looks capable of using clamps 0n the seat tube. My OMM is similar to the Red Rock and could mount on the axle with a longer QR.

Brad

lvleph

Yeah, that just reminded me that I will have to been the rack just to get it to fit the 120mm spacing.

EDIT: That seat post rack is looking better and better.

EDIT2: Except seat post racks move the center of gravity higher and tend to move around a bit. hmmm.

lvleph

Okay, what are the drawbacks to just a front rack? I think I can easily find a front rack that doesn't need eyelets.

cyclist2000

I don't think that this will work since it is designed for the size of the quick release rod not the standard axle.

lvleph

Okay, so what about this. I can always use a p-clip to mount to where the brake normally mounts. But, then again the axle mount might be a problem since it is probably for quick release.

EDIT: I emailed Axiom to see if this rack would work.

fietsbob

Its a QBP item your local shop can get one..

short chainstays will have your feet hit the bags.

one of these ? https://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_416/travoy.html
attaches to your seatpost, but the wheels carry your load.

shipwreck

Maby I should have said that clips on the bottom is the cheapest way to go, not the best. That said, I have bought a few bikes at the thrift shops with this setup, and seen it on a few as well. I have even done it myself on a front fork with no eyelets and had no problems(though I fabbed the clips myself, they were sturdyer than what you can buy at the bike shop).

cyclist2000

The tubus stay mounting clamps look much sturdier than p-clamps.

skilsaw

Unnecessary suffering is not heroic.

lvleph

I don't care about being heroic. I just like to ride fixed. In fact, I sold my other bikes so that I could have this one built for me. However, with the rack frustration I am emailing them to see if the rack mounts can now be added. Hopefully they aren't too far along in the process. I am kind of thinking they are since it is suppose to be down within the next couple weeks.

truman

You could also explore rackless options:

lvleph

I actually thought about this some. What fits in the Frame Pack? In fact, I really like this idea, since I have to buy bags anyway.

Juha

Have you considered the Extrawheel?

truman

Small stuff fits in the frame bag - tools, water bladder, food, camera- because you don't want to be hitting it with your knees, but these hold a lot of stuff.

Bulkier stuff goes on the bars or in the seat bag. Or you could mix and match and try a post mounted rack & bag with light/bulky stuff and a smaller frame bag with the heavier items in.