antokelly

Anyone using just carradice camper saddlebag and ortlieb barbag for touring if so what in your packing list please.
obviously it's a very clever packing list keeping the weight and bulk down so how did you do it please.
my sleeping gear is takng up practally all the saddlebag just enough room for small stove but not much else..
exped down matt 7
pipedream 400 sleping bag
thermarest pillow
seve optimus stove plus 2 pots
small kettle
hilleberg akto on top of bag.

i will be using carradice expedition bag support QR.
any help and photos of your set up greatly appreciated.

Cheyou

Nun has a very nice setup . His list is on bikepacking.net under personal setups


Thom

mdilthey

A pillow? That's not ultralight! Ditch that, and the stove, and you're looking at a gearlist closer to what an "ultralight" tourer carries.

fuzz2050

While I feel that They is joking a bit, he has a point. If you have some extra clothing, it can double as a pillow pretty well, and a stove, two pots and a kettle is a bit excessive for light weight touring.

The Svea is an awesome stove, and I kind of want one, but you can shed a good bit of weight and bulk if you go for a modern canister stove.The MSR MicroRocket is a great choice, plus it saves you almost a pound of weight. Go down to one pot, maybe a frying pan style lid, and a mug if you want really elaborate meals, but you can do quite a bit of cooking with just something like the Imusa 12 cm mug

antokelly

thanks lads but i need a pillow honest, i can take the optimus crux instead but yeah i need a stove i do like my tea/coffee.

staehpj1

I consider my current packing list ultralight and it includes a stove and a pillow. It comes in at a little over 11 pounds of gear and also includes the bags, a camera, and enough stuff to do some trail running, peak bagging, and even overnight backpacking.

I don't use the bag arrangement the OP asked about though.

fuzz2050

What is it with you and stoves named Optimus? The Crux will work admirably, and if you're touring in the States, and keep a spare canister handy, I wouldn't worry too much. Loosing a few pots and the kettle will help out a good bit, and you can still have all the tea you like, you just have to pace out your meals a little more.

shipwreck

I am not ultralight, and don't use the same bags that you have. Not sure if they are bigger or not. But here is my lighter weight rig on a trip I took this spring




The bags are home made, so never really figured out the capacity. Plus I used a camelbak for extra water carrying, along with tools, headlamp, and the like.

Here is pretty much what I was carrying.


North face wasatch bag, Eureka zeusII(about one pound more than the Acto), Big agnes pad, stuff sack with enough clothing for a night on the town and second bikeing outfit, book, pot and stove, wet wipes, rain jacket, plastic bag, camera. I was going to take a hammock, which would save a lot of room and two pounds, but expected some big storms on this trip. I also could have just taken a silk sleeping sheet, and really saved some room, but it was this spring, back when things were a little cooler.

staehpj1

Sweet looking rig. Do you have any more details or pictures of the bags posted anywhere?

antokelly

Now That's what i'm talking about excellent
the carradice camper longflap saddlebag is the biggest in the range (I THINK) super bag loads of room outer pockets totally waterproof and well you know all about the ortlieb barbag another great bag.
but yeah it's knowing what to take, this is so so differnt that 4 pannier set up i can even get both my OPTIMUS stoves in there sorry FUZZ had to get a dig in there Steahpj1 will take a look at yours shortly thanks all for the help.

antokelly

excellent packing list could not fault it
don't suppose you have pic's of your set up.
i know i'm always looking for pic's but they tell so much.
anyway thanks for posting that really something to aim for .

staehpj1

That exact rig no, but there are a some of my last tour and an article about my ultralight experimentation.

Bekologist

I've toured with that bag setup and there's no way I would consider carrying a hilleberg tent and a svea 123 even close to lightweight or possible with that choice of bags. I mean, the stuff just isnt going to fit, nor are they components of what is reasonably considered 'lightweight'.

you're packing trad, man.

I don't use the absolute largest camper carradice, but this is one of the larger long flap bags.....

I used a silnylon tarp, head bug net, a sleeping bag that compresses to the size of a grapefruit, the smallest alcohol stove...... and i still felt i was cramping the bag capacity.

my advice is to lighten it up significantly or CC tour when using the carradice-front HB bag style. a hilleberg and a svea just isn't going to cut it.

antokelly

quick look at the photos on cgoab excellent stuff altogether .
emm so much to take in.

antokelly

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when i get my bike sorted nearly there it will look something like yours.
the tent the pillow will be coming , i can use the crux stove that's not a problem.
what i need to pack is wet gear (jacket maybe pants ) and light trousers extra base layer/ beanie/ rab jacket (bit bulky). i can get stove, cup, pot ,tools ,snacks, in barbag with a bit extra to spare .
the tent will be strapped to top of saddlebg.
i cant really change my sleeping set up that's the problem and it taking up most of the saddlebag.
but i won't give up just take a bit more clever thinking on packing.
thanks lads this is great.