Exactly what I'm talking about. Tomorrow, I plan a ride, unknown mileage (50-70), with at least 20 miles being dirt road or singletrack. These are the rides I go on since I bought a CX bike. I could easily find a group ride with road bikes, maybe one with mountain bikes, but I'd love to find a few others that would go on rides like mine. And you can only really do them efficiently on a CX bike.