Originally Posted by ddez

The reason the s-type has longer top tube distance is. The stem is taller than other models which allows for way more bend, which it has in said stem, to stretch things out.I measured my s-type from center of bars to center of seat post at highest extension.If i drop saddle to handle bar height its still over 26"
Anyhow one cant really make accurate comparisons really,as they each have so many different options.For instance Sesame is using m-type because thats what he has.My bike(s-type) is way lighter(9.2 or 20.5lbs) than the weight he shows as mine has no options or gears.(s/s).Also his tiket is medium,theres 3 sizes in those bikes as well,so it doesnt work out well for comparisons except maybe roughly.
So lets realize very clearly he is comparing "what he owns",which is fair if we keep that in mind.Otherwise this is going to be a flame war as usual.