Originally Posted by
Tom Velo Orange
I hear the cardiffs are much much better...
;-)
Give yourself a little more credit than that.... The cardiffs are WAY worse.

I bought, rode for a few days and returned a Cardiff Cornwall earlier this summer...leather was MUCH too soft, and far flimsier than any V-O saddle..but it sure did look Nice (I've got the V-O Model 6 and Model 8 as a comparison...I love the Model 8)
A little adjustment of the allen bolt in the front is all that is needed. VO Saddles need to be adjusted a little sooner than a Brooks.
And there's a lot more than a $10 price difference between a B17 special and our VO Mod 3 or 5 saddles.
You should consider providing that tip on your site. I might have been less surprised at the amount my Model 6 sagged after the first few weeks had I known that.
There certainly is a bigger price differential than 10 bux between your Model 3 and a B.17 special but its not really an apples to apples comparison. Comparing the Model 3 to a standard B17 is much more fair, and that
is a 10 dollar difference if you go by Velo-Orange prices...
The only reason I can see comparing a Model 3 to a B17 Special rather than a Standard is the "copper" rivets. The important distinction is that the copper rivets on a B17 Special are really copper (and yes, they can corrode) the Rivets on a Model 3 are copper
anodized, and you can take a look at my Model 3 and plainly see that the anodizing wears off on the rivets that are in contact with your butt the most.