Originally Posted by icyclist

" However after a few rides with them there is still more of an annoying tugging feeling around the shoulders"

What, this was an initial problem you didn't mention? So it's more than just the crotch pain?

It might be that bibs are not for you. On the other hand, it does sound like to many layers under the straps.

Try a base layer first, then the bibs, then your jersey, and then a windbreaker. Then report back.