Clif is about as reasonable and as nice a guy I have never met and having met randy I can say he is a pretty decent fellow... one guy is complaining about Clif's lighting and it does seem Clif has been very considerate and put a lot of thought into his set up.

"This "your light is too bright!" problem is becoming a recurrent theme here, and we should be looking for solutions, rather than just ignoring it."


I think we are starting to see more discussions on this (have started one myself) because lighting technology is advancing so quickly and every day there seems to be a better and brighter light on the market. I have started to run into more people who are running much brighter lights and when poorly aimed these are quite blinding.

And then there are those people who are trying to replicate a sunny day on their night rides or running off road lights that are not suitable for multi use trails or bike paths.

Better lights have a cutoff to prevent them from blinding oncoming cyclists and a 3 watt light has sufficient power to do this... my 10 watt Nighthawk turns night into day but it is also a flood and is only good for off road or when I am a solo act on the MUT.