I got a Windsor frame off Ebay. The geometry wasn't wacky or anything, pretty standard sizes and all that (mine was a 52 though, so far from huge). It was also spot-on to what it said it would be on their website. It's been a fine frame, best thing I can say about it is I haven't actually noticed it since I put the bike together. And I think Moto and Windsor are the same frames, or from the same factory at least.