Originally Posted by
feijai
Even in your scenario, to break even the locked-up bike would need to be 56 times less likely of being stolen. I'm not convinced even *that's* the case.
Yeah, but there are also other benefits to locking up. For example, you can use 406mm rims for better selection/availability, you don't have to be the guy with the giant package, and you can do things like strap a milk carton to your rack without worrying about how it affects the size of the fold.
I'm not saying it's not good to have a folder you can take inside all the time. I'm just saying that it's also good to have a bike you can lock.
Originally Posted by
feijai
Sheldon aside, to lock up a bike properly you need to disengage the front brake and remove the front wheel and seat. In my experience there's no way in hell that's faster.
Not if you have a folder.
I have the end link of a chain zip tied to the saddle rails on my Downtube. To lock I simply fold the bike in half, drop the saddle, thread the chain through the wheels and frame, and lock the ends together. Quick and secure.
"Why lock a folder?" Because folders lock better than nonfolders. I bet one could securely lock a tikit even faster. Or how about drilling a hole through the Brompton's seatpost and putting a small u-lock through it (can the wheels be removed without unfolding?)?