Originally Posted by
spcialzdspksman
Well I didn't say fixters wanted short stems because leader made long top tubes, it's the other way around. Leader makes long TT's for fixters short stems.
Plus, stem rise is more of a factor than length when it comes to bar spin clearance anyway. By now, hipsters hardly need to worry about clearance for bar spins and what-not, it's all been figured out. They've been making frames tailored for tricking on.
None of that's true again. Hipsters like shorter stems cause they do, looks or whatever. It has nothing to do with the length of top tube. They will put a 50mm stem on Bianchi Pista (55st, 55tt) or a Leader 725tr (55st, 56.7tt). And leader made bikes with longer top tubes for track racing, not hipster style. Hipster style says "compact is better" anyways, which means not longer tt. And a stem with rise isn't very trickster, just make it short. Check:
http://www.tricktrack.org/forums/vie...er=asc&start=0