Originally Posted by
DIRT BOY
No dumb ass!! YOU said for the OP to raise his saddle! I said"Nope I did not view it. I am going by what the top experts recommended. Having you seat to high or too low can also lead to injuries. Having a saddle too high like you recommend can and will lead to injuries. Even JRA. But again everyone is different." That is a FACT!
Just because you advice lead to him be comfortable for now, does NOT mean it right. He might not be comfortable after a longer ride and more time.
I watched the video and it said the same damn thing I said the first time. Twist my words all you want. That video in regards to saddle height is exactly what I said.
yes, I should spell check and not type so fast. Proof reading before I post would be a good idea. But who cares!
es, again if you knew anything about bicycle frame, many form Taiwan, China, USDA, etc all can and do have different geometry. Having a frame with different angles can and does affect fit very much. People bodies and fit do differ drastically. Why do you think compact road frames have become so popular? easier to fit more individuals. This allows a shop to stock less bikes of many different sizes and easier for factories to build.
What TejanoTrackie said about that video is the SAME that I said. You really do need to learn to and listen! Again twist my words all you want. Call me names, complain about my spelling and what not and hurl insults. You have zero idea what you are talking about.
I am done and welcome to my ignore list. I obvious your experience in the realm of cycling is nil to none. I keep believe i am arguing with someone like you.
Also I am sure you fail to realize that some drop bars and bullhorn with different lengths of reach can also affect fit.
You started the whole thing by saying someone's saddle was too low and he did not even post a picture with him in the proper position to even make that assumption or judgment.
I'd love for you to show me where I "twisted" your words. Up to now, you still haven't provided any quotes or evidence to prove what you've said, whatsoever!
Unlike you, I don't need to see the exact part of every single thing to to picture a leg down to a vertical crank position.
and AGAIN when did I ever say that things can't be different? I am simply noting that most frames designed for fixed gear riding are VERY SIMILAR, where you then said he needs a frame a SIZE DOWN because it's a FG frame.
All you're doing now is dismissing this whole argument simply because YOU can provide no PROOF.
I have quoted every single thing that you have said and contradicted and all you did was say I "twisted" them without telling how, and then proceeding to insult (again) and calling me a dumbass.
And the video: if you support what TejanoTrackie said, which was the video I posted, why are you even arguing?
Oh right, maybe because you didn't even BOTHER to look at the video I posted before arguing that what I said was wrong.
When I saw the photo, I can definitely tell that his leg was too bent, even in that position. If you can't see that, it's not my fault.
Then I posted further instruction for him to find his fit, IN ADDITION to my speculation.
If you now suddenly, or always have, supported what was said in the video, which I originally posted, whose fault is it you're arguing against something you so support?
Let me make this clear,
I realize measurements for frames, geometry, people can be different. I just don't agree the extent you have taken this fact to apply to all fixed gear frames, that require a SIZE DOWN, which measurements would probably be completely thrown off.
Sure frames have different sizings, that's why you should measure and determine the specs of the frame yourself and not just go by what's written.
And the frame angles affecting a person's fit? That's just puzzling, unless you mean they are enough to affect the length of the TT, ST, and other measurements. Someone riding a 54cm touring frame can very well ride a 54cm track frame, despite their angle differences. (different methods of sizing, i.e. center to top, center to center, etc, aside)
Let me point out that there's also the difference between the actual TT and effective TT, (and ST) the latter being the factor for sizing.
And you're right, I have yet to learn the fit properties of the reach of handlebars, but you're not the one to talk, since you've indicated you're only still learning the complete fit of a bike as well.