Well, I agree with both comments. It is a tool and the spooky is setup for all go with very little show. At the same time there is very little difference from this and a generic Al frame.

With that being said, I know Mickey either gets his tube(or assembled frames) from sapa who also makes Moots stuff as well as low end stuff. It's not the material but what you do with it. I was very skeptical about the Salsa podio and it turned out to be a great frame.

I won't know for sure till my knee is well enough to train/race on.