When the driver of a car makes a mistake, and it causes a collision between a car and a bike, the bicyclist can be killed. When the rider of a bicycle makes a mistake, and it causes a collision between a car and a bike, the bicyclist can be killed.

If said cyclist runs the red light, he could die, odds are he's going to be the only one who does. When a car runs the red light, a cyclist could die, odds are the cyclist is going to be the only one.

I'll support all the rulebook wavers if we replace airbags with spikes. Then we can talk about how dangerous it is for people who drive cars on the road. If a cyclist wants to take his life in his hands and run a red, that's his call, it might not be smart, but it is only himself he is endangering. A careless driver is a different matter.

Joe