Now I'm leaning towards the Williams 19's, they're only $500. One thing about those Kysirium Elites: they're slightly heavier @ 1550 grams, but that's still rather light in the big picture, and they are utterly friggin bulletproof. I mean, don't even, I put 50K miles on Kysiriums over the past five years and never had to true a wheel. That's amazing. So I get two sets of wheels, the Williams are very close to the D.A. wheels in weight/performance and I have an every day set of wheels that won't pop a spoke when I'm in rural Greece a two hour drive from the nearest bike shop who even knows what 'Mavic' means (and it wouldn't surprise me if the bike shops in Athens don't even know from Mavic).

Either way those Williams Carbon 38's will be for sale for $500-$600, ridden by a little old man who never crashed them. Actually they probably only have a couple of thousand miles and they have been hanging in the Pcad Bike Bunker hardly used for the past 4-5 months. Easier to eBay them to avoid BF Blowback. Friggin hand-wringing pain in my ass WEENIES that you all are on this stupid site.