Originally Posted by
LupinIII
alright i'll let it slide. It came off at first as running two aerspokes coz messengerz r cool. I still think that wheels and tires contribute most to speed and what not, but from what i get you f'd your last frame so that's why you're changing that now.
as has been said, the pista concept and the globe roll are completely different, only similar in their fork ends. It's a bit hard to take your initial question seriously because it's like someone saying "I like the tartness and juice of a citrus fruit so i'm thinking of eating an orange, but i've heard an apple a day keeps the doctor away. which should i get?"
now, I've never had experience with a pista concept so i can't really comment on its ride, but it seems like they have weak seatpost collars. most of the ones for sale say it's cracked or has been welded. for alu that motobecane ftp on bikesdirect isn't bad. if you're comfortable with doing your own labor for assembly (pulling out bb to grease threads, checking everything is tight, i would say truing wheels but you got that covered) it's a good deal. If you go to a bike shop for maintenance though it'll cost you more.
I like the coltello too. good aluminum, geo on the more aggressive side with a low offset fork. sure it's not a real masi in the purist sense of the word, but it's a nice bike. you can find them used in the ~550 range it seems.
the jamis sonik is legit too.
Thanks, yeah i'm going to forget about the concept, too much hunting down to find one the right size and without big dents and such, but the motobecane to be pretty good for what I need and good price.
Also for the kilo tt on bike direct, the dimensions and weight seems pretty much the same as all the bikes with that shape but doesn't cost $1500+ just for a frame, and is still cromo, with those other frames is the quality that much of a difference?(my old frame not sure of the brand, bought it used but seemed to be the same shape also, now its broken but the frame was 10+ old and had some rust spots in joints) but anyway, I wanted to get a bike for my girlfriend to use to if she wanted to ride with me sometimes, but one that I can slowly upgrade also, but wondering if a the kilo is worth putting quite a bit of cash into?