Originally Posted by
San Rensho
A frame is geometry, period. Different geometry makes a bike handle different. A $10k bike and a $1500 bike with exactly the same geometry will handle exactly the same. People say different materials make the ride "feel" different but I don't buy that. I can't tell any difference between a stee frame and an aluminum frame (which is supposed to be very stiff). The biggest factor in bike "feel" are the tires, wide v skinny tires and tire pressure, soft v very hard.
This really is not true. There are significant ride differences between frames. As said above, it's not just material either. It's the engineering of the frame's dynamics.
That said, it's an essentially un-testable premise, as no two frames will have identical geometries.
Originally Posted by
Urthwhyte
If were to speak in terms of WR's Madone, I can tell you what's not in the frame
Two things not in the frame: BB shell, and a warranty