Thanks DVC45. I am going to go for the NOVA. I like that it can be rolled when folded and that its lighter. And instead of the shock I think a nice set of Apple tires will work better. I have heard of people taking the shock off because they lose efficiency with it. It would be nice to have the internal hub but I have ridden bikes my whole life without one, so it seems more a luxury then anything. I was outbid on ebay last night, I will try again on another one. Yes, I did a ebay history search on downtube1 and they have not listed any bike but the orange Nova for months.