Don't worry, I get it. I am bustin chops but I can see there are a few here that "need" to feel a sense of superiority by trying to put me in my newbie place. I get it, but my original intent was to discuss Pcad's Scott and as I posted over 2 weeks ago, I warned him of how stiff they are. And I truly feel Sram is a better choice than the new Shimano offerings. This is the "forum" to have these debates, but apparnetly there are a few here that don't like to be questioned. Pcad's bad back ain't gonna improve with that Scott no matter what wheels or seatpost you use. Scotts are "right up you ass stiff".