Originally Posted by
LupinIII
technology i see, but i don't follow on an inferior njs geometry. as far as i know geometry isn't njs regulated.
the frames are good quality, and i'm pretty sure there's plenty of racers out there still using dura ace track hubs. maybe not at the most elite levels, but a low flange dura ace loose ball hub is old tech, but pretty solid.
people still race on square taper. outboard bearings are superior, but they don't seem real prevalent in the track market yet compared to square taper.
I don't race on track, don't plan to really, but if i were i don't think i'd be looking at steel bikes, njs or not. i'd be on CF or titanium probably. I support your argument that njs bikes are supremely overrated, but i mean if you can grab a vivalo or samson for $400 that's a solid deal atmo
I was talking about "all NJS" bikes that some folks are into. As far as geometry goes, NJS bikes seem to fit bigger with only a few inches of seatpost and downward stems. Modern bikes seem to be smaller while using longer seatposts and upward or straight stems. I don't technically what's going on, but that's what I've noticed.
I've also noticed (through first-hand experience or photos from events) that I can't recall seeing more that one or two NJS type bikes at events among hundreds of others. And those few bikes were hipsters who were new to track racing.
Components that happen to pass NJS spec are dope. It's just the "all NJS" hype that doesn't make sense. I ride high-flange Dura Ace hubs and Dura Ace cranks, both NJS. I also have a NJS chain. There are several photos of Victoria Pendleton (UKs female star track cyclist) using Nitto 123 bars.
Folks gotta realize that NJS is to cycling is what restrictor plates are to auto racing. It's an equalizer.