I realy don't understanding bicyclist hating bicyclist. the mtbers hate the roadies mtbers and roadies hate the urban fixed gear rider. this stuff realy makes me hate having a bicycle. live and let live. I would have to say an experinced fixied gear b/l rider can stop his/her bike as effective as a new comer on a hybrid. they'll be affraid of grabing the front brake lock up the rear wheel and skid away. realy why hate someone on a bike.