Well, I just bought this jacket and sent it back for a larger size. Nice but unassuming for almost $400. It is supposed to be one of the "best" jackets out there but I will see once I get out on the road with it. I was given gift certificates to Rapha and I figured I'd get their signature piece cuz the other jackets were a little less but quite thin. At the end of the day, my $140 retail Adidas Jacket I got on deep clearance at Nashbar for $31 does a good job.