Ok I guess I was only thinking about people who mountain bike, and use 4 wheel drive when driving to trails and such.....I wasnt thinking about all the people down south who would never need an SUV. And ok......the whole snow thing is between me and spire....lay the **** off PAL. And yea, SUV's are generally a waste in the USA, I dont know why the f*** that offended me so much.....sorry.......