Originally Posted by
kyakdiver
Tubus Cargo or Logo(personal favorite)... for the rear. I like the tara for the front but it doesn't have a front shelf if you want one.
+1 Go Tubus. They are lighter with enough capacity and can be found cheaper than the Surly's. The Surly racks are porkers. My LHT dropped almost 3 lbs by getting rid of the Surly Nice Racks front and rear for a Tubus Cargo and a Jannd low rider front. I like the rear Surly better than the front. The angled brackets they use for mounting at the weakest link and if you have a problem it will be with those.